To: sionnsar
worship is only to God our Father through our Lord Jesus ChristWrong! Worship is due to the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. Unfortunately, western Christianity -- while proclaiming Trinity -- does not worship a Triune God. No wonder it is where it is. The Symbol of Faith (i.e. the "Creed"), finalized in 381 specifically states:
...And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Giver of Life, Who proceeds from the Father, Who with the Father and the Son is worshipped and glorified...
Christians do not worship God the Father through the Son. That is heresy. I will leave it at that.
6 posted on
12/10/2005 1:16:59 PM PST by
kosta50
(Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
To: kosta50
Unfortunately, western Christianity -- while proclaiming Trinity -- does not worship a Triune God. We do.
10 posted on
12/10/2005 5:49:08 PM PST by
AnAmericanMother
(. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
To: kosta50; Kolokotronis
worship is only to God our Father through our Lord Jesus Christ
Wrong! Worship is due to the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. Unfortunately, western Christianity -- while proclaiming Trinity -- does not worship a Triune God. No wonder it is where it is. The Symbol of Faith (i.e. the "Creed"), finalized in 381 specifically states:
...And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Giver of Life, Who proceeds from the Father, Who with the Father and the Son is worshipped and glorified...
Christians do not worship God the Father through the Son. That is heresy. I will leave it at that.
Interesting. A quick check on the Nicene Creed in our Anglican Book of Common Prayer (aka 1928 BCP) reads:
"And I believe in the Holy Ghost, The Lord, and Giver of Life, Who proceedeth from the Father and the Son; Who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified;"
(I seem to recall there is a difference over the "proceedeth/proceeds" clause?)
11 posted on
12/10/2005 5:50:24 PM PST by
sionnsar
(†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || To Libs: You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azadi)
To: kosta50
Wow! Another heresy. Heaven's gonna be a pretty empty place, what with all the semantical ways to commit heresy.
19 posted on
12/10/2005 9:45:51 PM PST by
Larry Lucido
(Boycott taglines that don't say Merry Christmas!)
To: kosta50
Unfortunately, western Christianity -- while proclaiming Trinity -- does not worship a Triune God.
well, no. Catholicism worships a Triune God and CAtholicism is nearly 90% of the Western Church, so your statement is wrong.
48 posted on
12/12/2005 3:55:44 AM PST by
Cronos
(Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia!)
To: kosta50
Amen brother...I am reminded of the sayings of St. Mark of Ephesus:
"It is impossible to recall peace without dissolving the cause of the schismthe primacy of the Pope exalting himself equal to God." "The Latins are not only schismatics but heretics... we did not separate from them for any other reason other than the fact that they are heretics. This is precisely why we must not unite with them unless they dismiss the addition from the Creed filioque and confess the Creed as we do."
Pretty much sums it up.....:)
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