[Kolokotronis]

"What is happening on this thread is precisely the reason I decline to discuss religion with doctrinocrats. (And I don't mean you)"

I hope she means Kosta, Harley and me, S! :)

LOM, with all due respect, if a few more discussions like this one, and others on FR, had taken place regularly in ECUSA, it might not have spent the past 40 years sleepwalking into apostasy.

[Cronos]

LOM, with all due respect, if a few more discussions like this one, and others on FR, had taken place regularly in ECUSA, it might not have spent the past 40 years sleepwalking into apostasy.

Ping on that, Libre, while I do disagree with Kosta and Kolokotronis, I have learnt from them and respect their point of view. The Church teaches us to explore our faith -- what is surprising is that Protestants expect us to be hide-bound clinging to the words of the councils, but no, the Church tells us: ask, debate and read and learn. If Luther had read more about the ancient heresies he would have learnt to cleanse the Church's outward image (since the internal dogma was/is Christ's and is pure)