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To: x5452

"It is not Doctrine alone. You do not exist in a vaccum. You rely on the fellowship with other parishioners to keep you in line."

Here's where you're wrong. Indeed, I do not exist in a vacuum - I worship with a group of highly faithful, reverent, orthodox Catholics who are interested in following the objective teachings of the Church. This parish is led by priests who are likewise interested in orthodoxy, and aren't afraid to admonish us when we're on the wrong path.

Though it may be the case for some that they take their lead from those around them, I prefer to learn doctrine from objective sources. I am not accountable for the sins of those in my Church who choose to follow something other than that.

"And Frankly most modern Catholics don't have a CLUE what the church teaches."

You're right. And your point is? Again, am I responsible for the errors of others, or for my own?

"The Orthodox church are not one heirarchy. ROCOR is a separate church. It was the pope who came up with the idea that there is one top man, that didn't exist until 1054. The pope is first amoung EQUALS with the other patriarchs."

I'm not sure of the development on the doctrine of Petrine primacy and supremacy, so someone else with a firmer grasp of history will have to help me out here.


69 posted on 11/22/2005 8:17:29 AM PST by djrakowski
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To: djrakowski

If the priest does not properly bless the sacrements you're simply eating a cracker (and a stale tasting one at that). That affects you.

If your son is an alter boy and the priest molest him secretly that affects you.

You do not exist in a vaccum. There are tons of disilushioned Catholics recovering from finding out JUST HOW TRUE THAT IS.


71 posted on 11/22/2005 8:39:26 AM PST by x5452
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