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To: trisham
Something about this is unsettling. On the surface, it seems to be an almost Christ-like love he is offering these priests. Yet it seems also that there may lurk something under that surface.

You've got that straight, exactly the way I felt after reading it, except I was a bit more that unsettled, I felt sick. There's been talk about the happenings and agenda in DOR, but I guess I chose to be in denial. This article, even the title of the article, Rumors can be misleading, make one suspicious of intent.
60 posted on 11/16/2005 9:56:58 AM PST by rochester_veteran (born and raised in rachacha!)
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To: rochester_veteran
This article, even the title of the article, Rumors can be misleading, make one suspicious of intent.

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Bishop Matthew Clark has more to say on the issue of homosexuality in this 1997 homily:

"I think, for example, of how we all need to be as much in touch as we can possibly be with biblical scholarship as it applies to this question. Because I'm afraid the bible is used in ways that are not life-giving, but destructive as it's quoted about gay and lesbian people. I think we need to learn from the human sciences the research of which has yielded a lot of new information that I believe we have not as yet integrated into our knowledge and value systems and which we do not appreciate as elements which can alter honestly held but incorrect assumptions about other persons in our community."

Mass for gay and lesbian Catholics, families and friends

61 posted on 11/16/2005 10:11:44 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: rochester_veteran; trisham; tioga; victim soul; All
There's been talk about the happenings and agenda in DOR, but I guess I chose to be in denial.

The problems in DOR, like Albany and Rockville Centre, are deeply embedded. In the From The Mail column of this week's edition of The Wanderer, a reader writes:

"I am having serious reservations about donating to the following organizations: Catholic Charities, Catholic Relief Services and the Propagation of the Faith ... "

In their response, The Wanderer refers to an article from the Boston Globe which reported that Catholic Charities in Boston is placing foster children with "gay" couples. The paper then reminds the reader of an article they published in 1998 ...

Ex-priest Marvin Mich, professor of moral theology at Rochester’s St. Bernard’s Institute and a nationally known pioneer working in Catholic circles to facilitate the adoption of children by homosexual couples, spoke of the work he has done for Catholic Charities (CC). Mich claims to have persuaded CC staffers to understand the importance of following state nondiscrimination laws, rather than Church teaching, in the placement of adoptees in the home of same-sex couples. After summarily dismissing Catholic moral teaching , Mich explained that he prefers the statement from the Episcopal Church which declared: "To the degree that the study of Christian ethics is uninformed by the best knowledge our culture affords us, from the sciences and the humanities, our theology then is a disastrously flawed ethical system, even a useless, pretentious, or blasphemous one."

A quick Google search on Marvin Mitch turned up the following Adult Education Class, with Marvin Mitch as lector. This class will be held in 2006

Sunday, January 8

9:30-10:30am, A National Emergency and the Message of the Prophets, Charles Stratton. Celebration Center
9:30-10:30am The Future of the Roman Catholic Church, Marvin Mich. Johnston Hall
Third Presbyterian Church , Rochester, NY. (Anyone up to attending his presentation?)

After great research, we now know how Clark, Hubbard, Mahony and the other pro gay bishops were elevated to their present rank. Archbishop Jadot intentionally chose young priests in order to ensure that his and their agenda had an opportunity to be ingrained into their respective dioceses. We've all witnessed the results. To fully grasp the situation here in Albany, I suggest you read AGONY IN ALBANY. This 10 part series was written in 1991, following pleas for help from catholics in this diocese.

Our one consolation is that their days (okay years) are numbered. Of all Jadot's appointees, only Mahony became a Cardinal. Jadot thought his picks would make it to the College of Cardinals and effect future papal elections. The one thing Jadot never factored in, was the presence of the Holy Spirit.

65 posted on 11/16/2005 12:42:23 PM PST by NYer (“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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