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Vatican document restricts gays in priesthood: paper
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| 11/11/05
| Philip Pullella
Posted on 11/11/2005 5:21:14 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum
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This may be of interest...and interesting to see the reaction when the document comes out.
To: little jeremiah; NYer
a ping you might be interested in.
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posted on
11/11/2005 5:22:11 AM PST
by
Knitting A Conundrum
(Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
To: Knitting A Conundrum; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
"The Church cannot admit to the priesthood those who practice homosexuality, have deeply rooted homosexual tendencies or those who support the so-called 'gay culture,'" the newspaper quoted the document as saying. Bears much repeating! God bless Benedict XVI!!!
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posted on
11/11/2005 5:42:27 AM PST
by
NYer
(“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
To: Knitting A Conundrum
Reacting to earlier reports that the document would ban even celibate men with gay tendencies, Archbishop Diarmuid Martin of Dublin told the British Catholic newspaper The Tablet last month: "You don't write off a candidate for the priesthood simply because he is a gay man."
Mmmmmm...nooo...actually....I think you do, Your Excellency.
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posted on
11/11/2005 5:49:02 AM PST
by
Claud
To: Knitting A Conundrum
This seems pretty self explanatory, they might as well be quoting Archbishop Dolan's "Priests for the Third Millenium" where he differentiates between "tendencies" and "lifestyle".
Nothing new here.
What would be new is if he can get the Bishops in the U.S. to actually listen......
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posted on
11/11/2005 5:51:57 AM PST
by
Cheverus
To: Claud
Makes you wonder about the connection between this attitude and the problems in the Irish church....no, not really. They tend to go hand in hand.
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posted on
11/11/2005 5:52:18 AM PST
by
Knitting A Conundrum
(Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
To: Knitting A Conundrum
I wonder what qualifies as "deeply rooted homosexual tendencies?" How will this be defined?
Presumably, it's something short of practicing homosexuality but more than passing gay fancies.
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posted on
11/11/2005 5:54:00 AM PST
by
bourbon
To: Cheverus
Bishop by bishop, it will change.
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posted on
11/11/2005 5:54:16 AM PST
by
Knitting A Conundrum
(Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
To: Knitting A Conundrum
A new Vatican document will bar from the priesthood practicing homosexuals, men whose gay tendencies are "deeply rooted," or who openly espouse a gay culture, a leading Italian newspaper reported on Friday. And just when you think things can't get any better...
By several accounts, the document is expected to be short and to the point.
I want to hear the MSM squeal!
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posted on
11/11/2005 5:55:20 AM PST
by
Aquinasfan
(Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
To: Knitting A Conundrum
Il Giornale of Milan printed what it said were excerpts from the eagerly awaited document, expected to be issued at the end of this month. I hope this isn't another "trial balloon". We're still several weeks away from the end of the month.
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posted on
11/11/2005 5:55:23 AM PST
by
NYer
(“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
To: NYer
We will see. But this seems more likely than the previous one that had them watering it down, knowing what we know about the Holy Father...
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posted on
11/11/2005 6:15:35 AM PST
by
Knitting A Conundrum
(Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
To: Knitting A Conundrum
There is nothing inherently wrong about homosexual feelings--it is the action or acceptance of the action that is wrong. We are all sinners, and homosexuals who lust are no different than heterosexuals who lust--it is the self-control and devotion to God rather than Man that is important. I like where Benedict XVI is going with all this.
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posted on
11/11/2005 6:25:23 AM PST
by
jcb8199
To: Knitting A Conundrum
A new Vatican document will bar from the priesthood practicing homosexuals, men whose gay tendencies are "deeply rooted," or who openly espouse a gay culture, a leading Italian newspaper reported on Friday. I know what they're saying and so do most reasonable people but there's too much wiggle room here for me.
Rule #1: No poofters!!!
Anything less than this will be interpreted to mean that homosexuals are not ipso facto, ineligible for Holy Orders. Then it will all come down to what the defintion of "deeply rooted" means. We all know how that will be worked around- especially by people like the US episcopacy.
To: Knitting A Conundrum
If this is for real, nothing is going to change. It gives the formation directors too many "outs."
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posted on
11/11/2005 6:34:31 AM PST
by
B Knotts
To: Knitting A Conundrum
Sounds good. Can't wait until it is released. Praying that it's as strong as it sounds.
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posted on
11/11/2005 6:44:48 AM PST
by
Antoninus
(Hillary smiles whenever a Freeper trashes Rick Santorum)
To: Knitting A Conundrum
Blahblahblah ....
Reporters, unnamed sources, highly placed officials, excerpts, experts, unidentified accouts ... barf. What a bunch of wankers. The document hasn't been published, you buffoons! When it is, we'll read it (and all about it). Until then, find something else to report on.
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posted on
11/11/2005 7:07:15 AM PST
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: marshmallow
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posted on
11/11/2005 7:08:28 AM PST
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: Knitting A Conundrum
It took about six years for the reforms of the Council of Trent to take hold, to the extent they did. Unfortunately Europe was caught up in horrible religious wars which discredited Christians on both sides in the eyes of many.
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posted on
11/11/2005 7:17:33 AM PST
by
RobbyS
( CHIRHO)
To: Knitting A Conundrum
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posted on
11/11/2005 7:18:16 AM PST
by
RobbyS
( CHIRHO)
To: jcb8199
Well, I would say that homosexual feelings ARE wrong and need to be suppressed and or redirected, just as lust for a woman should be. Like the old gag that we see in the movies. A bunch of cowboys are confronted by a hot babe, and one excuses himself and says he has to go home to see the wife.
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posted on
11/11/2005 7:24:49 AM PST
by
RobbyS
( CHIRHO)
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