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Father Doug Takes a One Year Leave - Parish is National Headquarters for Futurechurch
November 6, 2005 | Diago

Posted on 11/06/2005 6:02:58 PM PST by Diago

It was reported in the St. Mark bulletin this weekend that Father Doug Koesel, Pastor at St. Mark Parish in Cleveland, has asked for - and received - a year off from his priestly duties. A very long explanation letter boiled down to "I'm worn out". He encouraged his parishoners to give the incoming priest a warm welcome and to be open to the changes he is likely to make.

As has been widely reported, the national headquarters for the dissident group, Futurechurch is located at St. Mark's Parish. A brief history of Bishop Pilla, Futurechurch, St. Mark's, Pope John Paul, and the Cleveland Faithful can be found below.

It is unclear whether or not Father Doug's sabatical is a result of Vatican pressure [nevertheless, thank God for Pope Benedict], but Father Doug's comment that parishioners should be "open to change" is an indication that Futurechurch may soon be sent packing!!!


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: cleveland; futurechurch; pilla
How Bishop Anthony Pilla Conned Pope John Paul the Great | May 5, 2005 |

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1396984/posts

Following years of vocal protests all the way to Rome concerning the existence of the heretical group

Futurechurch's national headquarters on property owned by the Diocese of Cleveland, Bishop Anthony Pilla issued a phony statement condemning Futurechurch just days before his final ad limina visit with Pope John Paul II.

Sadly, Pilla had no intent of enforcing the phony statement which was never enforced and the national headquarters of Futurechurch remains on diocese of Cleveland property

From http://www.futurechurch.org/ :

FutureChurch 15800 Montrose Avenue Cleveland, Ohio 44111 USA Phone: 216.228.0869 | Fax: 216.228.4872 E-mail: info@futurechurch.org

_______________________________

From http://www.cleveland.catholicnet.com/parish/stmark/

St. Mark Church 15800 Montrose Avenue Cleveland, Ohio 44111 E-mail: doughk@aol.com Rev. Doug Koesel, Pastor

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The following statement in bold appeared on the Diocese of Cleveland website in March of 2003:

Please remember that the Futurechurch headquarters has been located on Diocese of Cleveland property for years before this statement and remains on Diocese of Cleveland property after this statement.

http://www.dioceseofcleveland.org/memo/april2004/chancellor_april2004.htm

"The statement below has been used verbally by the Chancery for the past several years. Increased inquiries indicate that distribution of the statement in writing would help to clarify the situation:"

13 March 2003

STATEMENT OF THE DIOCESE OF CLEVELAND REGARDING AN ORGANIZATION KNOWN AS "FUTURE CHURCH"

"Future Church" (a.k.a. "FutureChurch" ) is not an organization affiliated with the Catholic Diocese of Cleveland nor does it have the support or approval of the Bishop of the Diocese. "Future Church" is an independent organization of individuals who promote an agenda that is not consistent with the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church, and who are fully responsible for the arrangement of their own programs and activities.

Based on the preceding statement, it is not appropriate for the activities and meetings of "Future Church" to be held in church related institutions and/or parish facilities.

_______________________________________________________

But wait....

There are several lies contained in this statement issued for Vatican consumption as Pilla prepared to go to Rome.

Note the prelude that claims: The statement below has been used verbally by the Chancery for the past several years.

The Diocese of Cleveland is falsely trying to backdate its phony condemnation of Futurechurch.

For starters if the Diocese had been saying for "the past several years" that "it is not appropriate for the activities and meetings of "Future Church" to be held in church related institutions and/or parish facilities," then why has the national headquarters of Futurechurch been located (and remains located even today) at St. Marks Catholic Church in Cleveland!!!

Want more evidence that Pilla was lying, take note of Futurechurch's reaction to Pilla's last minute condemnation. The leaders of Futurechuirch were surprised and shocked. But wait a minute, the Diocese was claiming that they have been saying for years that Futurechurch is not Catholic, why then would Futurechurch be shocked. Perhaps because the Diocese had never before made such a statement and was merely trying to deceive the Holy Father. Note that even the left wing Plain Dealer describes the Pilla phony statement as a "New Edict:"

Catholic reformers contest new edict

04/26/04 James F. McCarty

Plain Dealer Reporter

An influential group of liberal-minded Catholic reformers is debating a response to Bishop Anthony Pilla, who recently banned the organization from meeting on Diocese of Cleveland property.

Future Church, which claims more than 800 members locally, advocates allowing priests to marry and women to be ordained as the best ways to alleviate clergy shortages.

The group had operated unrestricted in the Cleveland diocese for more than a decade. But the truce ended unexpectedly April 1 after Pilla issued an edict to all pastors.

"Future Church is not an organization affiliated with the Catholic Diocese of Cleveland, nor does it have the support or approval of the bishop of the diocese," Pilla's warning read.

"Future Church is an independent organization of individuals who promote an agenda that is not consistent with the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church," the statement continued, and the group's activities are "not appropriate" at church institutions or facilities.

An internal debate over how to respond has been raging ever since via e-mail exchanges among Future Church leaders. Some members are urging the group's executive director, Sister Christine Schenk, to appeal directly to the Vatican's ambassador, the Papal Nuncio, in Washington, D.C. Others recommend a more deliberate approach, hoping to preserve some semblance of the status quo.

"We're puzzled and saddened by the description of us as not being in line with Catholic teaching," Schenk said recently. "We have some of the best Catholics in the diocese as members."

If the Diocese had been saying these things for several years, why was the restatment "unexpected," "puzzling," and why does the Plain Dealer state that "The group had operated unrestricted in the Cleveland diocese for more than a decade. But the truce ended unexpectedly April 1 after Pilla issued an edict to all pastors."

It is obvious that:

1) The Diocese has not been "for several years" that Futrechurch was not Catholic and that its "activities are "not appropriate" at church institutions or facilities."

2) The Diocese had no intent of banning Futurechurch from Diocese of Cleveland property with whom (the Plain Dealer notes) it had at least a ten year truce. In fact, two years after Pilla's phony statemnt on the eve of his ad limina visit, the national headquarters for Futurechurch remains at St. Mark's Catholic Church.

3) Pilla deliberately sought to deceive Pope John Paul the Great by issuing a phony statement to make it appear as if he had been cracking down on Futurechurch for "several years."

_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

The following report was made shortly afer this incident:

Futurechurch and Pilla - Pilla and Future Church

Fearful Pilla flips-flops on Futurechurch days before Ad Limina visit with Pope

Over two years ago, Futurechurch leaders were urging its supporters to support Bishop Pilla:

Were Bishop Pilla to be forced out, we would be leaving ourselves open to a new bishop who would most likely be much more conservative and legalistic given the Bishop appointments that have been made in this papacy. The well-known litmus test for being appointed a bishop under John Paul II is that the person must be opposed to birth control, optional celibacy and women priests. I have this information directly from several bishops who are in positions to know. Bishop Pilla is one of the few remaining "pastoral" bishops who were appointed under Archbishop Jean Jadot. If he doesn't outlast the Pope we can expect to have our next Bishop be less open to lay participation in decision making than Bishop Pilla. It will be a given...and something we need to prepare for, IMHO.

In fact, the relationship between Futurechurch and Bishop Pilla appeared to be one of mutual admiration. Teachers at the bishop's seminary are active supporters of Futurechurch. The national headquarters for Futurechurch resides on diocesan property. In March of 2004, a Futurechurch event was even advertised in the parish bulletin of St. John's Cathedral:

http://www.saveourchurch.org/cathbishotten.pdf

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(Note the shared address below:)

From http://www.futurechurch.org/ :

FutureChurch 15800 Montrose Avenue Cleveland, Ohio 44111 USA Phone: 216.228.0869 | Fax: 216.228.4872 E-mail: info@futurechurch.org

_______________________________

From http://www.cleveland.catholicnet.com/parish/stmark/

St. Mark Church 15800 Montrose Avenue Cleveland, Ohio 44111 E-mail: doughk@aol.com Rev. Doug Koesel, Pastor

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So why the sudden announcement from the diocese that Futurechurch "promote(s) an agenda that is not consistent with the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church," and that the group's activities are "not appropriate" at church institutions or facilities?

Afterall, Catholic bloggers like Domenico Bettinelli, Mark Shea, and Kevin Miller have been very outspoken about Pilla's failure to act on the Futurechurch issue as have been the so-called Freepers at freerepublic.com. The organization "Save our Church" was formed in Cleveland for the sole purpose of exposing Futurechurch.

So why did Bishop Pilla finally take action?

The answer appeared on the Diocese of Cleveland website , less than two weeks after the stunning Futurechurch announcement. Pilla put out a phony condemnation of Futurechurch as he prepared to visit with the Pope in Rome! Bishop Pilla certainly knew that for several years folks had been writing Rome and influential Cardinals about the state of the Cleveland Diocese. Bishop Pilla's last second acknowledgment of the heritcal ways of Futurechurch was a "Hail Mary" pass attempt. Was Pope John Paul II fooled by this belated attempt by Bishop Pilla to paint himself as an orthodox Catholic Bishop?

Let us hope not. After all, the Rainbow Gay Pride Flag still flies on Bishop Pilla's website.

http://www.dioceseofcleveland.org/gayandlesbianfamilyministry/contact_us/index.htm

Here was the announcement by the Diocese of Cleveland just days after Pilla condemned Futurechurch:

http://www.dioceseofcleveland.org/news/bishopstovatican.htm


IT’S THAT TIME AGAIN …

Bishops from Ohio and Michigan are traveling to Rome for
“ad limina” meetings with Vatican officials and with the Pope


It’s a trip they make every five years and it’s that time again for the bishops that oversee the dioceses in what’s known as U.S. Region 6 (Michigan and Ohio) to meet with Pope John Paul II and various Vatican officials for ad limina meetings.  The Most Reverend Anthony M. Pilla, Bishop of Cleveland and his brother bishops from Ohio and Michigan will visit Rome from May 1-8 to make themselves available to the offices of the Holy See to report on the state of their respective dioceses.  This will be the fifth time that Bishop Pilla has participated in these meetings each time representing the Cleveland diocese.

These regularly scheduled meetings follow the submission of detailed statistical information from each diocese that the Holy See requires in what is known as the diocesan Quinquennial Report.  The visits give Vatican officials the opportunity to dialogue with bishops directly regarding information appearing within the reports.  It also allows the bishops the opportunity to explain to Vatican officials about the major activities going on within their dioceses.

Often during these visits, Vatican officials will raise specific issues with the visiting bishops.  Recently, Australian bishops were asked to stress to the faithful the importance of keeping Sunday (the Lord’s Day) holy.  Their concern is that Australian Catholics are putting sports events, recreational activities, and work ahead of weekly Mass attendance and resting on the Lord’s Day.

          The visit will also be a time for the bishops to celebrate liturgy at all of the major basilicas for the people of their dioceses.  Highlighting the trip, the bishops will have the opportunity to meeting directly with Pope John Paul II.  In recent years these opportunities for meetings with the Holy Father have become more limited in frequency and duration because of the Pope’s declining health.



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1 posted on 11/06/2005 6:02:59 PM PST by Diago
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To: Diago

Crackpot liberal heretics...why aren't these nutcases located in California?


2 posted on 11/06/2005 6:11:12 PM PST by AlaninSA (It's ONE NATION UNDER GOD...brought to you by the Knights of Columbus)
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To: dubyaismypresident

ping


3 posted on 11/06/2005 7:44:46 PM PST by Diago (http://www.margaretsanger.blogspot.com)
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To: Diago
FutureChurch has already been sent packing.

Our Lady's Warriors>Dissent>Organizations

FutureChurch A regional parish-based coalition seeking to address the priest shortage. FutureChurch claims the remedy is the ordination of married men and women. FutureChurch engages in educational presentations to parishes, grass-roots organizations, and the media. Its current project is a nationally-promoted dialogue on an "inclusive priesthood." Member of Catholic Organizations for Renewal.

4 posted on 11/06/2005 8:12:15 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Diago
St Marks - my own humble parish

By the way, believe it or not, unless you happenned to go to the Future Church website and note the address, you would not know that they were "headquartered" at St. Marks, or, more accurately, in Father Doug's bedroom. It's not like I ever read about it in the bulletins...

Not to say that I haven't groaned my way through a few of his sermons

For what it's worth, the word on the street is that Doug is now dealing cards in Las Vegas...really

5 posted on 11/22/2005 9:11:48 PM PST by jscd3
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To: Diago
Too bad. I thought "Future Church" might have some cool uniforms. :-)


6 posted on 11/22/2005 11:50:19 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: jscd3

Given his old AOL profile, I can believe Father doug is now a card dealer in Vegas. Everything below is from Mark Shea's blog:

http://markshea.blogspot.com/2002_12_01_markshea_archive.html#86593374

And, as if to oblige me, St. Mark's in Cleveland, OH (aka Future Church, dedicated to the demolition of Catholic sexual morality as well as other trendinesses) offers the following bulletin announcement for Christmas:




CHRISTMAS MASSES: 4 pm. Mass is the Children’s Mass. It is awful. This is the mass that most people who go twice a year, go to. IT IS CROWDED! People arrive at 3:15 and the church is full by 3:30. After sitting for 45 minutes, Mass begins and it is LOUD and the kids are off the wall! Try the 6 pm. for a nicer atmosphere and spiritual setting. Most beautiful are 10 pm. and 11 am. on Christmas Day. NO 9 am. Mass this year and no morning mass on Christmas Eve Day.




You thought I was kidding about the FutureChurch part? Nope. Same addresses:


FutureChurch
15800 Montrose Avenue
Cleveland, Ohio 44111 USA
Phone: 216.228.0869 | Fax: 216.228.4872
E-mail: info@futurechurch.org

St. Mark Church
15800 Montrose Avenue
Cleveland, Ohio 44111
E-mail: doughk@aol.com

And by the way, if you have aol you may want to check out Father Doug's personal profile.

Name: you really wanna ask?
Cleveland, Ohio
Single 6'5", 250
sports, wrestling, cards, golf, piano, sci-fi, theatre, politics

Jeepers! What a hipster! How can somebody as in tune and spiritual as him bother with a bunch of screaming brats. Put a latte machine in the vestibule!


7 posted on 11/23/2005 1:14:46 AM PST by Diago (http://www.margaretsanger.blogspot.com)
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To: jscd3

OK. Futurechurch got the boot. Any inside info as to why?


8 posted on 06/08/2006 9:06:20 PM PDT by Diago ("Upon hearing about such things, I confess that I'm tempted to look for my shotgun and baseball bat")
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