Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Holy See will ask Israel that ‘Upper Room’ passes under Catholic supervision
Catholic News Agency ^ | November 4, 2005

Posted on 11/04/2005 10:47:31 AM PST by NYer

The President of the Pontifical Council for the Unity of Christians will ask Israel, it hands over to Catholics, overseeing of the ‘Upper Room’, the place in which Christ celebrated the Last Supper, and instituted the Eucharist and the Priestly Order.

 

The EFE agency informed yesterday, it had access to a document, saying that Cardinal Walter Kasper arrived in Jerusalem “with a pre-agreement” stipulating that the Holy See would preserve the historical character of the place, and that it would remain open to pilgrims and tourists and that Israel would provide security.

 

According to the agency, the Vatican representative “asked for the use of the Upper Room for liturgical offices”, and “that custody will be handed over to the Franciscan Order.”

 

The Upper Room chapel, was used during John Paul II’s visit in 2000. There, he presided over a historical private Mass, the first one in centuries in this specific place.

 

The history of the building where the Upper Room is located, reflects the complex history of the region. During the Middle-Ages, the Franciscans set up there first convent in the Holy Land, but they were expulsed by the Ottomans in the year 1551. The invaders built a mosque there, arguing that King David’s tomb was located in the same area.

 

The building was then taken over by the Israeli Ministry of Culture in 1967, and is now  being used as a hebrew school and a synagogue.


TOPICS: Activism; Apologetics; Catholic; Current Events; Ecumenism; General Discusssion; History; Ministry/Outreach; Prayer; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholic; cenacle; holysee; israel; lastsupper; pope; upperroom; vatican


1 posted on 11/04/2005 10:47:32 AM PST by NYer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...

The room visited by tourists today is a Crusader structure as evidenced by the architecture. On the first floor below this room is the traditional tomb of David. The location of this "tomb" outside of the City of David precludes its authenticity but some suggest that evidence in the "tomb" indicates an early Jewish-Christian presence (or synagogue). If so, this could support this general area as the location of the biblical "Upper Room."
2 posted on 11/04/2005 10:49:26 AM PST by NYer (“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Isn't this actually a Byzantine structure erected at the spot where tradition held that the Upper Room had been?


3 posted on 11/04/2005 11:50:28 AM PST by siunevada
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

How can this be the Upper Room when the Romans destroyed Jerusalem and everything in it in 70 AD.


4 posted on 11/04/2005 11:58:04 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (When someone burns a cross on your lawn, the best firehose is an AK-47.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

The destroyed the temple, not everything. The ROmans unleashed a nuclear attack on Carthage, not Jerusalem.


5 posted on 11/04/2005 5:20:59 PM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: NYer

A 1st century Church was built at the Coenaculum that escaped destruction in 70 AD and again in 135 AD as it was outside the area of military operations. It was enlarged by the Byzantines and called Holy Zion to associate the 1st Christian Church with the prophecy of Isaiah. In 614 AD the Persians destroyed the Church and the Crusaders rebuilt it in the 12th century with a lower chapel that contains the Tomb of King David and an upper chapel that contains the Coenaculum. In 1552 Christians were expelled from the upper chapel by the Turks when the Coenaculum was converted into a mosque.


6 posted on 11/04/2005 5:20:59 PM PST by sanormal
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: sanormal

Wow, I can't beleive it! I thought Muslims were a peace loving ultra-tolerant lot.


7 posted on 11/05/2005 8:55:49 AM PST by The Cuban
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson