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To: SOLDIEROFJESUSCHRIST

I find it inconceivable that Pope Benedict is not aware of these happenings. Housecleaning is definitely in order in some cases.


64 posted on 01/14/2006 1:50:46 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
Dear Salvation,

You say you find it inconceivable that Pope Benedict is not aware of these happenings. Frankly,Speaking I am not surprised that these things are happening in the Catholic Church in India.

It is not that Pope Benedict is not aware of this but he is not being given the right information with regard to the pros and cons of the incorporation of Hindu Rituals in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass by the Cardinals and other Catholic Bishops in India.

In fact, at the recently concluded Synod at the Vatican which marked the end of the Year of the Eucharist as well as the end of 40 years of Vatican II -- the Pope asked a number of Asian Bishops to go ahead with Inculturation of the Gospel as well as of the Liturgy.

I am quite sure he is not aware that Inculturation of the Liturgy in India involves walking on Broken Glass most of the time. Also, there are a number of Bishops in India who are Graduates and were Graduates of the Papal Seminary in Pune, India where all this evil crap started decades back and who are highly liberal and will never give the right information to the Pope specially if they are Heretic and Liberal Jesuits.

In fact, you may remember a few years back, that Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger had written a Document titled "Dominus Jesus" I guess in 2000 -- it faced a lot of opposition in India particularly from a number of Indian Catholic Bishops from different parts of India specially Cardinal Ivan Dias from the Archdiocese of Bombay.

Their contention was that since Catholics and the Catholic Church in particular is a miniscule minority in India it is not appropriate to promote "Jesus Christ as the Universal Saviour of Mankind".

I was shocked when I heard about this, but not really knowing that this has been going on in the Catholic Church in India for the last 20-30 years. I truly believe that the Jesuits need to be suppressed as they are spreading all kinds of errors among Catholics not only in India but also in other parts of the Catholic World.

If you check out, Chris Gillibrand's site http://cathcon.blogspot.com you will realize that the Pope has a number of problems connected to Liturgical Abuse in Europe forget about what is happening in India and some Asian Countries.

For Example Did you know that Bananas are being consecrated by Catholic priests in a number of Austrian Parishes in Austria. Also, there are a number of Liturgical Abuses taking place on aregular basis in Europe.

Also, if you check out Victor Kulanday's Book "The Paganization of the Church in India" you will know exactly what I am talking about. I am frankly surprised that I seem to be the first Catholic of my generation who seems to be concerned about these abuses which have been going on for quite some time.

In Jesus and Mary,
65 posted on 01/17/2006 11:05:52 AM PST by MILESJESU
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To: BearWash; Salvation
Dear All,

I found this interesting news-item relating to Catholic Churches and Chapels in Goa.

It seems that some criminal group associated with a Hindu Extremist Group according to the Retired Inspector General of Police of Goa is stripping a lot of Catholic Churches and Chapels of "Priceless Artefact's" and then selling them to interested buyers on the Internet or in European Countries through an organized racket that exists in some European Countries as well as in India.

This Article and a couple more like this, appeared in a number of Newspapers in Goa like the Navhind Times, The Herald, as well as in Bombay like the Times of India since November 2005.

It seems that Robberies at Catholic Chapels and Churches in Goa have now reached Epidemic Proportions since September 2005 when the first few incidents began.


India: Churches and Chapels in Goa are under threat from an organized racket
MSN CPPnet (Ton Cremers) museum-security at museum-security.org
Sat Nov 12 07:53:31 CET 2005
Racket denudes Goan Catholic Churches of priceless artefacts

Pushpa Iyengar
Friday, November 11, 2005 23:57 IST

PANAJI: Antique statues and rare paintings, housed in churches and chapels
in Goa, are under threat from an organised racket to plunder the Union
Territory's rich heritage.

On November 1, burglars made an abortive attempt to steal a statue of the
Infant Jesus concealed in a bullet-proof vault at the Colva church in South
Goa. The total value of the statue, the gold, and the jewellery, including a
16th-century diamond ring, is valued at Rs 1 crore.

Thieves broke the lock on the door leading to the pulpit, but could not get
their hands on the statue, and instead had to settle for the cash in the
donation box. The botched robbery attempt was discovered by the 4,000
parishioners who came the next morning for Mass on All Souls' Day.

But St Anne's Chapel, at Marra, Pilerne, in North Goa, was not so lucky. A
200-year-old ivory statue was among the nine statues and artefacts,
estimated to be worth Rs 15 lakh, that were robbed. The 65-cm-tall statue
was valued at Rs 8 lakh.

Barely days after the Pilerne theft, burglars struck again and stole seven
statues worth Rs 80,000 from Our Lady of Assumption Chapel at Guirim, North Goa.

Two other statues were found desecrated inside the chapel. Another major
theft occurred at St Joaquim's chapel at Borda, Margao, in which more
valuable antiques were robbed.

What is also emerging, though, is that unscrupulous buyers are willing to
fence the artefacts over the Internet. One such message reads: "Straight
from Goa, a rare antique statue of St Ignatius de Loyola, in excellent
condition; also, an 18th century Indo-Portuguese Pieta, of direct Goan
provenance, for sale on the Internet."

Art collectors often come across such stolen antiques while scouring the
Internet. And it is also clear that while the burglaries are committed by
local gangs, their handlers are elsewhere, and a part of some organised
network.

The ASI says less than 30 per cent of antiquities are registered. One aspect
is the outdated Antiquities and Art Treasures Act, under which it is illegal to export art objects that are over 100 years old; however, the Act itself contains no teeth to empower police and customs officials to enforce it.



P.S.- BearWash, you may be interested in the specifics of this article as will any Freeper who is an Indian Catholic and from Goa, Mumbai, etc.
66 posted on 01/21/2006 2:14:25 PM PST by MILESJESU
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