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Is the Teaching of the Encyclical Humanae Vitae Taught and Practiced in the Church? (Japan)
Humanae Vitae Research Institute ^ | 1998 | Fr. John A. Nariai

Posted on 10/30/2005 8:54:38 PM PST by dsc

However, in March of that very same year Japan Bishops' Conference had sent a memorandum to Rome. Obviously it was the answer to the enquiry conducted by the Papal Commission on Family, which was established in 1963 during Vat II by Pope John XXIII to consider problems of family, population, and birth-rate. It was continued under Pope Paul VI and came to consist of cardinals, bishops, population experts, physicians, married couples. I was able to obtain a copy of this memorandum. It is written in impeccable Latin but its content is not without fault. In it, the Japanese bishops said they opposed abortion. So far so good. They proposed, however, as a means to stop proliferation of abortions, artificial contraception which is safe, dependable and morally permissible be permitted. What they meant here was the use of condoms and contraceptive pills. What else? Not surprisingly, they were against NFP which would involve periodical abstinence. The abstinence, they claimed, would be impossible for Japanese couples because Japanese houses are too small. Do you understand the meaning? I did not, when I first read it. What they meant by that was that if the houses were small, husbands and wives cannot sleep in two separate rooms. Many married people who hear this just laugh and tell me married life is not like that at all. Japanese bishops sided with the majority report of the Papal Commission on Family. They dethroned God and enthroned man instead, it seems. So far, however, they were allowed to express their opinions freely, but soon it became very clear that those bishops of Japan, with maybe a handful of exceptions, were not so orthodoxly Catholic.

(Excerpt) Read more at hvri.catholic.ne.jp ...


TOPICS: Apologetics
KEYWORDS: contraception; humanaevitae; japan; un; unfpa; unicef; unitednations
Long but interesting pro-life article.
1 posted on 10/30/2005 8:54:39 PM PST by dsc
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To: dsc; Campion; cyborg; Petronski
This is very sweet -- I'll have to come back and read the rest later. (I hear a baby ...)

This is what God taught us and I tell young people to have at least three children. Do you know when a woman is most beautiful and sexy in her life? When she is young? On her wedding day? Wrong! My theory is that a woman becomes most beautiful when she had 2 children. Why? God tells young couples to multiply and increase. So, God must give incentive to the husbands when wives have had two children. (...) By the way, Mr. Steven Mosher of HLI thought I was wrong. He said that his wife was most beautiful when she had 6 children. This is culture of life.

I went to Weight Watchers after the 5th baby was born, and became totally irresistable, resulting in three more babies, so far :-).

2 posted on 10/31/2005 3:49:36 AM PST by Tax-chick (I'm not being paid enough to worry about all this stuff ... so I don't.)
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Wow contrast that with the notion that women get fat and ugly and 'let themselves go' after two children. At least that's what men complain about, that their women don't look like fashion models after two children.


3 posted on 10/31/2005 4:49:19 AM PST by cyborg (I'm on the 24 plan having the best day ever.)
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I never looked like a fashion model, but I was thinner after seven children than I was when I got married. Of course, I'm hugh now, but that will pass :-).


4 posted on 10/31/2005 5:14:03 AM PST by Tax-chick (I'm not being paid enough to worry about all this stuff ... so I don't.)
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How did you do that after seven kids? You exercised,etc?


5 posted on 10/31/2005 5:15:00 AM PST by cyborg (I'm on the 24 plan having the best day ever.)
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No, I don't exercise. (It would be nice, but hard to fit in among all the other stuff.) I just nursed the baby and reminded myself that "Nothing tastes as good as thin feels!" I was 150 lbs. when I got married, and 120 before this latest pregnancy.


6 posted on 10/31/2005 5:42:03 AM PST by Tax-chick (I'm not being paid enough to worry about all this stuff ... so I don't.)
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Wow, that's a long article ... 34 pages of printout, in nice large type.

If I see anything really interesting or novel, I'll post it in a reply for easy access.


7 posted on 10/31/2005 7:03:02 AM PST by Tax-chick (I'm not being paid enough to worry about all this stuff ... so I don't.)
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So, without any hesitation, I said that I would follow the Holy Father if the bishops were not in agreement with him, because he had the key to the gate of heaven and was therefore infallible while the bishops were not given that key and are fallible. The rector scolded me for my having cited an impossible situation: the Pope and the bishops were always one, he had happily and sincerely believed it. He even threatened to expel me because I was not worthy of priestly vocation. As a matter of fact, my ordination to sub-deaconhood was postponed for some months.
8 posted on 10/31/2005 10:08:25 AM PST by Tax-chick (I'm not being paid enough to worry about all this stuff ... so I don't.)
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The tendency of many bishops is they depend too much on experts. Many times those experts either medical or theological are messengers from hell. Bishops should discern what is wrong from what is right. It is not too difficult. All they have to do is to obey, not the world, but the teachings of the successors of Peter.
9 posted on 10/31/2005 10:09:25 AM PST by Tax-chick (I'm not being paid enough to worry about all this stuff ... so I don't.)
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