[redgolum]

Good point.

What gets me is the out and out hatred of kids that some of these people have. I can't understand that, but then we are hoping to have kids!

[HairOfTheDog]

What gets me is the out and out hatred of kids that some of these people have. I can't understand that, but then we are hoping to have kids!

I haven't seen any hatred of kids... they just don't want to have them in their life.

Damned freedom and all that.

[SaltyJoe]

To those who cut themselves off via a barren marriage:

Don't want to have kids? Fine.

Let these "dinks" (Duel Income No Kids) couples fund their own retirement. Don't let them put their child-free adulthood responsibilities upon our children and our children's children. If they don't invest in their own old age, then no one else should be held responsible.

It's anti-child, orgasm for the sake of the high attitudes of adults like these that push socialism upon the Natural Family.

If you want to pervert the Sacrament of Marriage, don't drag down the rest of society with you. Cut yourself loose and be on your own. Let your crime between you and your spouse remain only between your disgraced attitude and God. Don't include the rest of Humanity.