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To: NYer

The LORD has made us all priests and kings. We are a royal priesthood. It seems the CC makes doctrines that cause people to believe that they are dependent on it rather than Christ Himself thus causing people to fear for being apart from it. I am a member of the body of Christ through the Spirit of God by the blood of Jesus the Christ not through membership into any particular denomination. All the promises are mine. I have been healed miraculously apart from any Catholic priest and I am sure I will be again. It has been through the prayers of myself, other saints and at a different time elders from another church that the LORD has healed me. It has always been by the power of The LORD that I have been healed whether miraculously or otherwise.


5 posted on 10/24/2005 11:49:09 PM PDT by Bellflower (A new day is Coming!)
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To: Bellflower
It seems the CC makes doctrines that cause people to believe that they are dependent on it rather than Christ Himself...

If it seems as such to you, then you are ill-informed on matters of Catholic doctrine. Why, in any event as a non-Catholic, are you expressing concern on the subject of the Sacrament of Extreme Unction?

6 posted on 10/25/2005 12:51:44 AM PDT by Selous
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To: Bellflower; Selous
The LORD has made us all priests and kings. We are a royal priesthood.

Not according to Scripture!

St. Paul states that the Church, NOT Scripture is "THE pillar and ground of the truth." (1 Timothy 3:15)  Since the Church alone is mentioned as THE pillar of truth, then It alone has the right to discern the truth and interpret Scripture.   For if individuals could correctly interpret Scripture, then all interpretations would be EXACTLY THE SAME as there can only be ONE spiritual truth for the plural of the word "truth" NEVER appears in Scripture.  The Church is Christ's bride (Ephesians 5:29) and has no spot, wrinkle or blemish (Ephesians 5:27). 

Is the Church to be a loose conglomerate of believers or is it to be organized and structured?  Scripture CLEARLY established "offices" and a "hierarchy" among Christians.  The offices of "bishop, priest (presbyter) and deacon" are mentioned in Scripture (1 Timothy 3:1,8; Titus 1:7).   What else is this but "organization?"  Or should we believe that any believer can "claim" to be a bishop, priest, deacon or even "apostle?"   The word "office" is specifically used in Scripture (1 Timothy 3:1) to describe these positions.  Webster defines "office" as "A special duty, trust, charge, or position, conferred by authority or God and for a public purpose; a position of trust or authority."  And the office of "apostle" is to be continued (Acts 1:20-26) to the present day.  Not all believers are "equal" nor have the same gifts (1 Corinthians 12:8-10; Ephesians 4:11).  

If you read The Acts Of The Apostles, it is clear that St. Peter leads the Apostles.  Therefore, since the Apostles are to be replaced as they die (Acts 1:20-26), then it follows that whoever succeed(s) St. Peter is leader of the Church.  There is only to be one shepherd of the Church (John 10:16).  For the Apostles did not argue amongst themselves whether there was a "greatest" at all, but who amongst them was THE greatest (Mark 9:34; Luke 9:46).

8 posted on 10/25/2005 2:24:57 AM PDT by NYer (“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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To: Bellflower
"Is any man sick among you? Let him bring in the priests of the church and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer of faith shall save the sick man. And the Lord shall raise him up: and if he be in sins, they shall be forgiven him." Epistle of St. James, 5:14-15.

Why should we listen to you instead of to St. James?

15 posted on 10/25/2005 6:18:36 AM PDT by gbcdoj (Let us ask the Lord with tears, that according to his will so he would shew his mercy to us Jud 8:17)
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To: Bellflower

You confuse the common priesthood with the Ministerial Priesthood. A frequent mistake made by the Scripturally ignorant.


80 posted on 10/27/2005 10:07:03 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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