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To: NYer; Deo volente

Good! One of the very reasons that there is a vocations shortage is that the laity - and nuns - are permitted and encouraged to do so many things that were once the priest's job alone that there is no longer much of anything to be called to. The theory seems to be that the job of the pastor now is to handle the bills and fundraising, and the laity or the nuns will do all the liturgical and spiritual "stuff," from distributing the Sacraments to running retreats, etc. This is an inversion of the way things should be, and I think it is one of the things that accounts for the drop-off in vocations.

In places like LA, where the good Cardinal has insured that there will be no priestly vocations, in order to further his project to laicize and feminize (and "gayicize") the Church, so many things have already been assigned to lay people and the ever-eager nuns (who see the priesthood as just a heartbeat away) that it's going to be difficult to reverse this. But it has to be done; perhaps the way to do it is to form some sort of relationship with a good order priest or even a holy retired diocesan priest who could probably get permission to visit you in the hospital. We have a wonderful, devoted retired priest here who is ceaseless in hospital visits, confessions, etc.

Of course, Phony Mahony probably goes out of his way to prevent any of these from sneaking into his diocese. But if we quietly accept the system he has set up - run by nuns and lay people - then that's all we're going to get.


11 posted on 10/25/2005 4:37:39 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius
The theory seems to be that the job of the pastor now is to handle the bills and fundraising

A good number of the pastors I know are terrible fundraisers. Most are great homilists and spiritual advisors, but have no clue on how to organize a bake sale.

29 posted on 10/25/2005 8:09:48 AM PDT by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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To: livius
One of the very reasons that there is a vocations shortage is that the laity - and nuns - are permitted and encouraged to do so many things that were once the priest's job alone that there is no longer much of anything to be called to.

You are absolutely right! Someone posted a thread about a year ago regarding a priest, ordained pre VCII who eventually left for the reasons you cited.

42 posted on 10/25/2005 9:30:29 AM PDT by NYer (“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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