Posted on 10/23/2005 6:55:51 AM PDT by truthandlife
President George W. Bush has terribly misspoken about the true word of God and is likely to experience consequences in response to his errant remarks and beliefs that were pronounced publicly at the fifth annual Ramadan Banquet held in the State Dining Room at the White House.
Some quotes of note: “We must also firmly oppose all who commit evil in God's name.”…” I have great confidence in the future of this nation, and in the future of the Muslim world.”…” As we celebrate this special Iftaar, we renew the ties of friendship that bind all those who trace their faith back to God's call on Abraham.”…” Ramadan is the holiest time of the Muslim year. According to Islamic teaching, this month commemorates the revelation of God's word to the Prophet Muhammad in the form of the Koran. For more than a billion Muslims, Ramadan is a time of heartfelt prayer and togetherness. It is a time of fasting and personal sacrifice. It's a time to give thanks for God's blessings through works of charity.”
These were not the words of an Islamic cleric, but rather the words of the President of the United States as he welcomed Muslim leaders to the White House for his fifth annual Ramadan Banquet in the State Dining Room. The President initiated the “Iftaar” to foster better relations between Americans and Islam after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. It has become a tradition at the White House.
To the poltically correct this is a wonderful ecumenical, inter-faith outreach, but, Biblically it is a form of abomination in the very least, if not blasphemy. The President has made extraordinarily false claims equating the god of Islam with the one true God as he receives Islam rather than being salt and light to it.
The President has terribly misspoken. Allah and Jehovah are not the same. Muhammad, did not receive a “revelation of God’s word,” as was so aptly put by the President. Muhammad’s so-called revelation came thousands of years after God’s Biblical revelations and hundreds of years after Christ. Muhammad made up Allah and wrote a book designed not to foster friendship, but rather to continue enmity between Jews and Arabs. Muhmmad has perpetrated the creulist hoax upon millions of people—they believe in a non-existant god that will only result in the eternity of hell. That any Christian, let alone a Christian President dare claim Muhammad received a revelation from “God” is bordering heresey.
There is no other God than Jehovah. In Exodus 20:3, God commanded, “Thou shalt have no other gods before me.” And in Ezekiel 3:18, God says, “When I say unto the wicked, You shall surely die; and you give him no warning, nor speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at your hand.”
The President is ignoring the word of God to patronize a false religion when he professes to know the truth, and the blood shall be on his hand. These are very dangerous proclamations made by the President because they not only reflect upon him, but also upon the nation he leads.
For a "godless atheist," you come across as reasonable, tolerant, and—dare I say it—Christian in your attitude toward others.
"For a "godless atheist," you come across as reasonable, tolerant, and—dare I say it—Christian in your attitude toward others."
Thanks. Our behavior is taught to us by our parents at a very young age, not by a church. Behavior is not religion-based, in my experience; it is a cultural thing.
What is considered "Christian" behavior is common among most cultures, regardless of religion. It's independent. And, as here, behavior is an individual quality, rather than being uniform throughout the culture.
I certainly behave poorly at times, although I do try not to. That's about the best any of us can do, I suppose.
What does it take?
Watching this ongoing series of suicidal events in America from abroad has become a terribly sad affair.
But where are the hurricanes? Saudi Arabia ought to literally be "awash" in hurricanes if toadying up to Allah gets you a hurricane.
What was that you were saying about the "history of their faith"?
Even to those with little knowledge of Semitic languages, it's obvious that the "slam" part has the same root origin as "salem". That word, BTW, is part of the name of the City of Peace, that is "Jerusalem".
We are kind of stuck with the words we get, eh? Live with it.
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Judgement comes in many forms
The Arab lands are so backwards, that is surely a judgement.
get it yet?
They are still waiting on the hurricanes. But, there's this problem with the Arab Christians in Syria, Iraq and Lebanon. Why is God (your God) punishing them too?
You capitalize on single events, not the lesson learned.
People like that who refuse to think are hardest to teach
Here's the deal ~ you want to preach a very narrow doctrine that excludes even the Prophets from salvation.
—Mark Twain
Matt 16:25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
Mark 8:35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.
Luke 9:24 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.
Luke 17:33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
I'm afraid you are in error to associate the word Islam with the word Salem or Jerusalem.
The word Islam is Arabic and describes the religion that came seven centuries after Christ.
It means to place yourself in submission to another.
It has no ties to Jerusalem as does the Hebrew word Salem, which was recorded several thousand years before the word Islam came into existence.
In Arabic, Islām from the root 'slm' (silm), to be in peaceful submission; to surrender; to obey; peace; Islam literally meaning "The active willful surrender, submission, obedience, in purity to the will of another (Allah) in complete peace." (understood as submission to God) and is described as a dīn, meaning "way of life" and/or "religion." Etymologically, it is derived from the same root as, for example, Salām meaning "peace" (also a common salutation).
Salem is Hebrew and means peaceful.
Strong's Greek and Hebrew Definitions
שׁלם shâlêm shaw-lame'
The same as H8003; peaceful; Shalem, an early name of Jerusalem: - Salem.
Good post. The kind that makes one proud of FR.
I hope you realise that you're ruining a perfectly good bash the Muslims thread for everyone.
No, if they were Prophets, they have Salvation already.
IF they were Prophets, that is...
I believe you are sadly mistaken. Hebrew, Aramaic, Syro-Aramaic, Arabic and some other languages in the Middle East are exceedingly closely related, and they do share words.
Even English shares words with Arabic.
The Prophets would include Adam, Noah, Abraham ~ and so forth. Your standard would exclude them from salvation.
What a waste of a perfectly good Two Minute's Hate.
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