[Petrosius]

It must be hard on the good Father to see his life work and that of his revolutionary generation being dismantled. :-)

I particularly like this statement:

But even the good news about the 10 percent of "highly qualified" seminarians is cancelled out by another finding that "regardless of native abilities and educational experiences," many students resist "the learning enterprise" because it threatens their "preconceived ideas about theology."

In other words, these good seminarians hold on to traditional Catholic teachings and refuse to be moved by their liberal professors. What a shame!

I am feeling better about this pope and the future of the Church every day.

[madprof98]

I wonder if it has occurred to Father McBrien that the Church prefers piety over intellectual sophistication in candidates for the priesthood because the faithful have been so badly misled by know-it-all elitists like himself.

[marshmallow]

However, what properly concerns Peter Steinfels --- and should be a matter of concern for all Catholics --- is that there are no explicit questions about the seminarians' "capacities for initiative, creativity or imagination and consultative leadership...."

Ahhhhh ....that would be because recent scandals involving the clergy and the ongoing problems with modernist dissenters and liturgical improvisors have nothing to do with "initiative", "creativity" nor "imagination". Quite the contrary. Many of the Church's problems in recent years have been caused by an excess of these things. The visitation is an attempt to address these problems.

These qualities might be essential in interior designers, landscape gardeners, architects and those in the food preparation business, but they are of minimal interest for Catholics and their clergy. The essential purpose of the seminary is to produce holy, faithful priests. Not artists. How on earth would a Cure of Ars or a Padre Pio have graduated from a McBrien seminary?

McBrien is, as always, not even close to being sensible. He is a true blight on the Catholic landscape. Worse than an idiot. A mischievous deconstructor of Catholicism.

[Carolina]

The preferred candidate excels at private devotion but displays less interest and fewer skills in collaborative ministry, especially with women.

Heaven forbid that they demostrate a devotion to God which would lead to this:

And his "preconceived ideas about theology" are considered a perfect fit for the priesthood.

Would these "preconceived ideas" perhaps have to do with a desire for holiness, pleasing God and not man? Can't have that now, can we?

[murphE]

However, what properly concerns Peter Steinfels --- and should be a matter of concern for all Catholics --- is that there are no explicit questions about the seminarians' "capacities for initiative, creativity or imagination and consultative leadership...."

Oh you can't make this stuff up

[Salvation]

From Our Lady's Warriors.Dissent>Authors and Speakers

Wondering if the author here is THIS Fr. Richard O'Brien?

Women Priests

 

Fr. Richard McBrien

Claims that a future Pope must overturn the infallible document disallowing women "priests" (Ordinatio Sacerdotalis).

 

 

 

Theology Incompatible with the Catholic Faith

 

Fr. Richard McBrien

Says, among other things, that Jesus did not establish the Catholic Church, and calls into question the virginal conception of Jesus and the perpetual virginity of Our Lady, and promotes dissent.

 

 

Public Supporters of Dissident Organizations

Fr. Richard McBrien

Supporter of Call to Action.

[jrny]

According to this lunatic, none of the 12 Apostles should ever have been called because they were uneducated and simple. Only St. Paul, a scholar, and St. Luke, a physician, would have passed his intellectual test, but these two great minds were not numbered among the 12.

Also, personal piety and upright morality and faithfulness to the Church's teachings lead to a CORRECT understanding of CATHOLIC Social Justice. Loving God and loving neighbor are two sides of the same coin, not a dichotomy as McBrien would suggest. Catholic Social teaching begins with the proper place God is to have in society and is not primarily, but secondarily concerned with man's physical well-being...the latter being the primary purpose of individuals, families, and the State (in that order), not the Church.

He's Sooooo afraid that they won't warp the Gospel to support every leftist, socialist program known to man (which is what the Code "Social Justice" really stands for).

[JohnnyZ]

Sounds great!

[hispanichoosier]

By comparison, there are numerous questions about recitation of the rosary, visits to the Blessed Sacrament, devotion to Mary and the saints and many other 'exercises of piety'.

And Steinfels's problem with that is? : )