Drawing the Line for Mormons: A Closer Look at the LDS Church

Catholic Exchange ^ | October 17, 2005 | Mary Kochan

[xzins]

You are essentially wrong.

You overlook that God allowed this creation, that he knew the total future details of, to proceed.

[kidd]

You are correct.

[Between the Lines]

Call me sacrilegious if you must, but to me the most likely scenario is that we were seeded here on this planet by travelers from space.

That chariot of the god's stuff is so 80s. Don't you know that we are all cosmic tourists that willed ourselves to be born here just for the adventure.

[Doohickey]

Kindly explain why posting this sort of article is an expression of good Christian values?

Or, does dragging others down make you feel more secure?

[Mrs. Don-o]

The Catholic Church doesn't have any teaching, one way or the other, on other planets being inhabited with intelligent life. We neither endorse it nor rule it out.

The Catholic Church does teach, however, the existence of bodiless spiritual entities, both good ones and bad ones. Though they are not physical, they have the power to "organize" a physical appearance. I have no doubt that false scriptures (Koran, Book of Mormon, what have you) and false apparitions (some of the strange "Marian" apparitions --- not endorsed by the Church ---which produced false prophecies and disobedience) may well have involved rebellious spiritual entities who successfully deceived the credulous.

[It's me]

?????

[NYer]

Kindly explain why posting this sort of article is an expression of good Christian values?

This article provides clear information about the Mormon Church. Ecumenically, it is important to have a clear understanding of other denominations.

Or, does dragging others down make you feel more secure?

How does this article drag anyone down?

[SaltyJoe]

1 Corinthians 13: 6, "(Love) does not rejoice over wrongdoing but rejoices with the truth."

By the authority of Christ, Himself, the Church must define what is of God and what is not. Mormons may parallel Christian values, but the fruit of the LDS Church is not in Communion with Christ's teachings or with the Covenant of the Old Testament.

"Or, does dragging others down make you feel more secure?"

Are your feelings hurt? Did you expect a reverse of reason from Christians? With words like that, chances are you'll get a better audience with Saint Michael.

Concerning the accusation of "dragging" down others, I've been pitted against religious salesmen who attempt interrupt my time to turn me against my Christian faith. The experience is far worse a drag on my life than the time I volunteer to look at a web site.

You can go toe to toe with a militant Catholic; or, you can read, not like what you see, and switch to a different article. For centuries, Christians have been tolerating unpopularity from others far worse than a rejecting democratic society--you can tolerate reasonable criticism too.

[Eastbound]

"Or, does dragging others down make you feel more secure?"

Interesting question. Seems that it's difficult to embark on a spiritual journey without dragging some baggage with you. And it's the baggage that aborts the journey.

'What'cha got in the bag, initiate?'
'Oh, just a couple of books on who I should condemn.'
'They are pretty heavy, lad. Heavy enough to sink your boat.'
'Hmmm. What do you suggest?'
'Are you a good swimmer?'
'The best! Olympic medals! See? I always wear them.'
'Your medals will attract the sharks.'
'I see. Can I wear my T-Shirt that says, 'My religion is better than your religion?' 'No. Your religion is not going to save you.'
'What about my Tux? Can I bring it?'
'Filthy rags!'
'How 'bout my Harley boots?'
'I'll make that one exception. Come aboard!'

[Maeve]

BRAVA!

[Coleus]

I once read that when you sign up for g mail, google has a right to read the content of your e mails that you send and receive.

[Coleus]

They get to wear the magical underpants. >>

I heard about that, something that they have to wear a certain type of underwear. I wonder how this custom came about.

[Coleus]

George Nouhry is a Catholic, I wonder how he can believe that aliens crated this world and implanted it with humans. Or is it that as a radio host he just goes along with his guests and ensures people call in. FYI Art Bell, worked at ITT in Nutley.

[Coleus]

I have a friend who joined the lds church for about a yr. and this is where I learned a bit about it.. they do believe that there are 3 separate gods, they are made of flesh, and that god the father has parents, and when you die, you can either live in "heaven" with god the father, or the son or the holy spirit, depending on how you lived your life, living with god the father would be the better of the three. Also, when you die, you live with your family, and that the more children you have the better.

but what happens if you are widowed and you remarry and have more kids and what happens if one of the spouses gets sent to hell or to heaven with god the holy spirit, while you live with god the father? It's a bit confusing. He didn't get to the point of wearing special underwear nor did he go to the special temple which is supposed to resemble heaven, where you need an ID card to get in.

I understand the BSA has a special handbook just for mormon scouts too..

[NYer]

A former manager is a high ranking Mormon and now resides in Salt Lake City. He loved to engage Christians in religious discussion. Those conversations pointed out my poor grasp of catholic catechesis. But, as the author or the above article notes, my boss carefully shielded their true beliefs from me, positing the Mormon faith as christian.

As for George Nhoury, he truly believes in aliens.

[Gamecock]

Many of the GRPL got into major trouble for criticizing or disagreeing with LDS members.

I've lost count.

[Mrs. Don-o]

There is no Catholic doctrine which would find anything objectionable in visiting, colonizing, or even "seeding" other planets.

I realize you asked about "Christian," rather than specifically "Catholic" teachings, but I'm answering in terms of Catholic because (1) with the Orthodox, the Catholics are the oldest historic Christian Church, and (2) unlike many Christian denominations, the Catholic Church has a body of explicit, written doctrines which are propounded on the basis of a permanent authority. They are quite definite. There's even a search engine so you can look up the most imporant doctrines at:

http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc.htm

T'aint like you need to get different people's opinions, or do any guessing about it.

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

I believe they're called "Temple garments."

[Ragtop]

UNfortunately many of the author's assumptions about what Mormons believe are wrong. Sorry.

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

FYI Art Bell, worked at ITT in Nutley.

Why doesn't that surprise me?

:))