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To: bornacatholic

"Brother K, I don't think too many of my Christian brothers and sisters are as spiritually advanced as you so you have to cut them some slack :)"

Unh huh! As I have said before, +John Chrysostomos to the contrary notwithstanding, I am the greatest of sinners.

"Not too many are going to appreciate/apprehend Liturgy as well as you do."

I don't understand at all what is happening during the Divine Liturgy but I do experience it, experience existence on the Eighth Day! Any Christian can do that, a little "unclouding" of the nous, and I do mean a little, is all it takes. I am no saint and I have no special knowledge of things. I try to worship our Triune God the way my ancestors have for 1800 years or so and live out that Faith 1/100th as well as my peasant ancestors did.

"The D.L. is the action of Jesus as both Priest and Victim...And the Eucharist. D.L/Mass is both a Sacrifice and a Sacred Banquet and too infrequently, imo, the Church has failed to inform its members about this truth"

The Church doesn't need special programs to teach us to repent, to "fear God" first for His didactic corrections and later for fear of our own human nature leading us from God. Every Latin Rite or Eastern Rite or Orthodox Christian knows this. Once we arrive at a point of "perfect fear", which really is true love of God, the Liturgy/Mass becomes living in the Eighth Day, which is more real in every important sense of the word than the other seven. The Church doesn't inform us of these things, God's grace allows us to experience and know these things.


60 posted on 10/14/2005 1:24:34 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis; bornacatholic
Unh huh! As I have said before, +John Chrysostomos to the contrary notwithstanding, I am the greatest of sinners.

Not for long. Hold my beer... ;)

61 posted on 10/14/2005 5:11:35 PM PDT by monkfan (What consumes your thoughts controls your life)
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To: Kolokotronis
I agree in general. However, the will, intellect, and memory of our souls must be more than graced for us to experience Liturgy rightly and to participate in it authentically.

About Liturgy/Mass, we must be educated/instructed in its various aspects, its purpose, its meaning, our role in it etc.

You are too much of a Christian to trumpet your knowledge in this matter but your brothers and sisters can read what you post and draw obvious conclusions.

. In any event, IMO, the Church in America is woefully unctechized in matters Liturgical and it is the Duty of the Bishops, and the Priests under him, to teach we the sheep.

D.L./Mass/Liturgy is the pluperfect prayer of the church and too many of us Christians are not "getting it," and it shows in our lives outside of D.L.

And it shows in how we participate in D.L. and how much nonsense, inauthenticity, etc we tolerate

62 posted on 10/15/2005 4:39:10 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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