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To: pro610
At what point will the Magistarium change the tradition of the church if Scripture contradicts it? Will it ever admit it was completely in error?

Do you know you can still buy indulgences? What part of scripture is that from? If the pope speak excathedre and it is not supported by scripture what then?

The tradition of man is warned against in scripture. That includes the teachings of "A" "The" church.

I want to hope that this pope is leading people to be lead of the Holy Spirit, but you must understand his meaning of these words. Holy Spirit in the RCC cannot contradict the RCC. Therefore B16 cannot be referring to the third person of the God head, B16 out ranks Him.
42 posted on 10/06/2005 5:50:11 AM PDT by Rhadaghast (Yeshua haMashiach hu Adonai Tsidkenu)
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To: Rhadaghast
At what point will the Magistarium change the tradition of the church if Scripture contradicts it? Will it ever admit it was completely in error?

The Tradition of the Church and the Scripture come from the same source, God. Thus, they CANNOT contradict. If they appear to in your eyes, it is because you are misinterpreting something. I don't know what you have in mind here, but I have argued every conceivable Protestant argument, and have not found any case with merit yet.

Do you know you can still buy indulgences? What part of scripture is that from?

Without detailing your misunderstanding of indulgences, the Church has the authority to bind and loosen in Matthew's Gospel, Chapter 16 and 18. The Church has ALWAYS understood those verses as the ability to make such decisions for the sake of the entire Church. The concept of indulgences are Scriptural, as Martin Luther himself wrote before he left the Church.

The tradition of man is warned against in scripture

You are confusing terms. "Tradition of men", as Christ puts it, means something that keeps men from God. It is NOT a Tradition that is made up by man! Christ specifically refers to Korban, the practice of avoiding one's duty to their parents - a practice that kept a person from God so that he could keep access to his money. A tradition like the rosary, for example, does NOT keep a person from God, but focuses one's attention on Christ - this can hardly be considered a "tradition of men" in the sense Christ meant. A good example of "tradition of men" is Sola Fide. It is an invention of men (and not found in Scripture) that tends to deny the utility of love. This keeps man from God, since God is love.

B16 cannot be referring to the third person of the God head, B16 out ranks Him.

Utterly ridiculous. Which Pope EVER said he outranked God? Or even insinuated it? Please, brother.

Regards

45 posted on 10/06/2005 6:05:25 AM PDT by jo kus
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To: Rhadaghast
Do you know you can still buy indulgences?

Flatly banned by the Council of Trent over 500 years ago. Get with the times.

60 posted on 10/06/2005 8:23:57 AM PDT by Campion (Truth is not determined by a majority vote -- Pope Benedict XVI)
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