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To: livius; ArrogantBustard; Petronski

Actually, my parish has the eucharettes problem in reverse. The pastor and the associate go for reverence and liturgical correctness. Suddenly, we're using a lot more candles, particularly at Easter, and the BIG, beautiful monstrances have come out of storage. On All Souls, the younger priest actually wore an old vestment that was black. It was really beautiful.

There are LOTS of little old ladies and older gentlemen who like the holding hands and the ad libbing and the priests refuse to do it. Listening to the people complain about having a bishop and priests too tied to the Vatican is pretty funny. And none of them show up for Adoration and I haven't see a one in a line for Confession, either, not that that means anything.

The music is better than most places, but a different organist would make a world of difference. Right now he's going over the Missa de Angeles with the congregation and it will be used later this year, like in Advent.

It's an interesting time. Whoever thought that there would be a vice of watching little old ladies squirm?


40 posted on 10/06/2005 5:37:34 AM PDT by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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To: Desdemona

You make a very interesting point, and it's something I have noticed, too: the people who really go for the hand-holding and worst liturgical abuses of VatII are mostly elderly or pretty close to it. All of the ladies who want to get on the altar in my parish are so elderly they practically have to be helped up the stairs. But they are quite a solid bloc, and they bitterly oppose any changes.

And they are not notable for their piety. Our priest in High Springs recently started having someone lead the Rosary before the Sunday Masses because he was tired of the roar of conversation in the church before the Mass began (and sometimes during - I have seen people chatting on their cell phones during Mass). Guess what - the old ladies complained about "having" to say the Rosary, and he received all sorts of bitter, spiteful letters and complaints from them.

I think a lot of the more devout people got driven out of the Church in the 1970s by some of the excesses, and many of the people who remained were the ones who were fine with whatever went down, not very bright or religiously well-educated, for the most part, and finally ended up driving everyone else away. Those are the ones who, when Father is revealed to be gay because he has been caught soliciting in a public men's room, say, "oh, but he's such a nice young man, and we support him 100%, and the Vatican is just being mean about this whole thing."

Sadly, they have a lot of power in parishes, partly because of the proliferation of "lay ministries" and committees, and they will fight any reforms tooth and nail.


42 posted on 10/06/2005 5:52:19 AM PDT by livius
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To: Desdemona
Listening to the people complain about having a bishop and priests too tied to the Vatican is pretty funny.

Papist schadenfreude! LOL

43 posted on 10/06/2005 5:53:03 AM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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