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How about changing the name of Novus Ordo to the Penitential Rite?

It is truly spiritually disconcerting experience, where there is no serenity, no tradition, everything changes/always, everyone is bickering, much clapping, armwaving, horrible and very ugly music.

10 posted on 10/05/2005 10:17:48 AM PDT by Pio (He who has not Mary for a Mother, has not God for a Father.)
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PIO wisely observed:

How about changing the name of Novus Ordo to the Penitential Rite?

It is a truly spiritually-disconcerting experience, where there is no serenity, no tradition, everything changes/always, everyone is bickering, much clapping, armwaving, horrible and very ugly music.

Bravo!

My own personal Catholic list of Ping.

13 posted on 10/05/2005 12:04:22 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Pio
How about changing the name of Novus Ordo to the Penitential Rite? It is truly spiritually disconcerting experience, where there is no serenity, no tradition, everything changes/always, everyone is bickering, much clapping, armwaving, horrible and very ugly music.

I'm sure that you've had numerous unpleasant experiences with the abuse of the Novus Ordo Mass. I have had them as well. The abuses are not the Mass. The abuses are specifically departures from the Order of the Mass; they represent unauthorized, illicit, and possibly invalid disobedience of the rubrics approved by the Church.

Come to northern Virginia some time. Assist at Mass in (almost) any parish in the Diocese of Arlington. You'll find serenity. You'll find the Mass offered properly every time. I don't think you'll find any bickering, or clapping, or armwaving. You'll usually find a combination of new and old hymns, usually good. You won't find any female Altar Boys, either.

When I travel, I assist at Mass in the geographic parish in which my hotel resides. More often than not I find that the Mass is generally offered properly; bickering, handclapping, armwaving and liturgical abuse do not appear (to me) to be anywhere near as common as appears to be commonly thought in traditionalist circles.

YMMV.

Lousy parishes exist in even the best of dioceses, and good parishes exist in even the worst.

16 posted on 10/05/2005 12:19:40 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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