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Top Cardinal Plays Down Priest Shortage (Divorcees to receive communion?)
Associated Press ^
| October 03,2005
| NICOLE WINFIELD
Posted on 10/03/2005 10:35:36 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: Stone Mountain
It is time to re-evaluate celibacy in the priesthood given the genesis of the edicts to have celebate priests.
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1141/is_23_38/ai_85060908
I would also imagine that it must be particularly galling to a celebrate priest who might serve in the same parish as a married priest who may have come over from the Lutherans or Episcopalians.
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posted on
10/03/2005 10:48:55 AM PDT
by
markedman
(Islam = surrender, and we will NEVER surrender!)
To: markedman
There is no need to reevaluate celibacy. The arguments for the discipline are well-known, and the weak, self-serving arguments against it are also well-known.
If it bothers a celibate priest to have a married formerly Episcopal or Lutheran colleague, then he needs to think about his lack of charity.
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posted on
10/03/2005 10:55:58 AM PDT
by
wideawake
(God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
To: Stone Mountain
The priest shortage is primarily in the west. In the Third World seminaries are full. I still think the Church should start ordaining those married deacons. That is a good point though...how many celibate priests will feel peeved if they start ordaining married men. (this is not already including ex-Lutherans and episcopalians)
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posted on
10/03/2005 10:56:38 AM PDT
by
brooklyn dave
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Pope Benedict XVI delivers his speech during the first day of a three-week meeting of the world's bishops at the Vatican Monday, Oct.3, 2005. More than 250 bishops, cardinals, heads of religious orders and others from about 118 countries will take part in the Synod of Bishops
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Bishops arrive for the first day of a three-week meeting of the world's bishops at the Vatican Monday, Oct.3, 2005. More than 250 bishops, cardinals, heads of religious orders and others from about 118 countries will take part in the Synod of Bishops.
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posted on
10/03/2005 11:06:25 AM PDT
by
NYer
To: brooklyn dave
Dear brooklyn dave,
Actually, I think the problem is more acute in a lot of Third World countries. In fact, many European countries, as well as the US, have lots more priests per Catholic capita than many South American and African countries.
As well, since Mass attendance is low in the US, and even lower throughout much of Europe, the problem is even less severe in these countries than the raw numbers tend to show.
sitetest
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posted on
10/03/2005 11:17:48 AM PDT
by
sitetest
(If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
To: sitetest
To: wideawake
Actually, it was the weak combined with self-serving interests that led to celibacy in the first place.
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10/03/2005 11:34:18 AM PDT
by
markedman
(Islam = surrender, and we will NEVER surrender!)
To: markedman
Actually, it was the weak combined with self-serving interests that led to celibacy in the first place.Whose silly anti-Catholic version of history are you basing this unsupported piece of fluff on?
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10/03/2005 11:37:21 AM PDT
by
wideawake
(God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
To: wideawake
"Whose silly anti-Catholic version of history are you basing this unsupported piece of fluff on?"
Hmmm. Let's see, "The National Catholic Reporter?" And what do you base your unsupported views on?
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10/03/2005 11:43:15 AM PDT
by
markedman
(Islam = surrender, and we will NEVER surrender!)
To: wideawake
I'm in a parish with two celibate priests and two married priests . No Problems.
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posted on
10/03/2005 11:48:25 AM PDT
by
Milly
( An proud Aggie mom .."Gig 'Em ")
To: Stone Mountain
**its ban on giving communion to divorcees who remarry without getting an annulment.**
I think this will stay in place. As long as a divorced person does NOT remarry they can receive Holy Communion!
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posted on
10/03/2005 11:48:56 AM PDT
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: markedman
Hmmm. Let's see, "The National Catholic Reporter?" And what do you base your unsupported views on? I don't think basing your understanding of Catholic history, tradition and dogma on what appears in that particular publication is serving your best spiritual interest.
JMHO
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posted on
10/03/2005 11:49:07 AM PDT
by
conservonator
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To: Milly
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posted on
10/03/2005 11:50:51 AM PDT
by
Milly
( A proud Aggie mom .."Gig 'Em ")
To: markedman
Hmmm. Let's see, "The National Catholic Reporter?"Ah yes, NCR.
They are about as "Catholic" as "Catholics for a Free Choice." So your source is a bunch of yellow journalists. Good to know.
And what do you base your unsupported views on?
My extremely well-supported views are based on my degree in medieval history.
But please, let's hear your version of history.
After all, you got it from NCR, well-known for its bashing of Catholic tradition.
Spiel away. I'd love to hear how emulation of St. Paul and Jesus Christ himself is "selfish" and "weak."
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posted on
10/03/2005 11:51:31 AM PDT
by
wideawake
(God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
To: conservonator
"I don't think basing your understanding of Catholic history, tradition and dogma on what appears in that particular publication is serving your best spiritual interest."
Wish though you may, you cannot erase a couple of thousand years of well documented European history.
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posted on
10/03/2005 11:52:42 AM PDT
by
markedman
(Islam = surrender, and we will NEVER surrender!)
To: Milly
Nor should there be. I've never heard of an orthodox, celibate priest bitching and moaning about his married colleagues.
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posted on
10/03/2005 11:54:33 AM PDT
by
wideawake
(God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
To: markedman
Wish though you may, you cannot erase a couple of thousand years of well documented European history.Posture though you may, you have yet to adduce a single fact in support of the silly thesis you cribbed from NCR.
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posted on
10/03/2005 11:56:19 AM PDT
by
wideawake
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To: wideawake
Actually, it is well documented fact. Being blind to history does not make it go away.
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posted on
10/03/2005 12:00:32 PM PDT
by
markedman
(Islam = surrender, and we will NEVER surrender!)
To: markedman
Wish though you may, you cannot erase a couple of thousand years of well documented European history. Does the well documented history you refer too involve the celibacy rule coming into existence only in the middle ages as a result of the Church wanting to stop priests from hording wealth and creating dynasties?
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posted on
10/03/2005 12:02:52 PM PDT
by
conservonator
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