Posted on 09/17/2005 4:08:47 AM PDT by livius
“Traditional Islam: The Path to Peace”
Address by King Abdullah II of Jordan
Remarks by Cardinal Theodore McCarrick
Archbishop of Washington and CUA Chancellor
CUA Columbus School of Law
Sept. 13, 2005
Your Majesty, King Abdullah
Your Majesty Queen Rania
Prince Ghazi
Members of the delegation from the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan
Father President
Distinguished guests from many faith communities
Dear friends all,
Your Majesty,
A few months ago, when I was privileged to pray for you on another occasion in this capital city, I asked Allah, the compassionate and merciful Lord of all the world, to bless you and to help you make your country a bridge across which all nations might walk in unity, fellowship and love. As I listened to your words today, I believe my prayer is being answered.
Indeed, the Amman Message of November of last year is a blueprint and a challenge not only to the great world of Islam, but to the whole human race. Your thoughtful leadership is a stirring invitation to all of us, especially to the people of the Book, the family of Abraham, who share so much and who are called to be brothers and sisters in God’s one human family.
You have taken to heart the words of Pope Benedict XVI when he addressed the Muslim leaders gathered with him in Germany last month and invited them all to join him in eliminating from all hearts any trace of rancor, in resisting every form of intolerance and in opposing every manifestation of violence. As you quoted in your splendid talk to us today, Pope Benedict called his listeners, in this way, to turn back the way of cruel fanaticism that endangers the lives of so many people and hinders progress for world peace.
Your Majesty’s call and that of the Holy Father are in so many ways the same. May Allah, the merciful and compassionate, continue to guide your steps along this noble path. May He guide and protect you, your family and your beloved country and may peace and justice come to all lands and all peoples through your efforts, your vision and your courage.
In the name of Allah, the merciful and compassionate God, we pray. Amen.
Cardinal Theodore McCarrick
McCarrick is also the Chancellor of CUA. Could his remarks have been any more smarmy and bootlicking?
What's wrong with this Cardinal? When a prient is ordained, doesn't he take an oath to his belief that outside the Church there is no salvation? Oh - this guy is a cardinal, so it doesn't matter anymore ... sheesh ..
McCarrick is a notorious lame-brain, but this has got to be one of his stupidest things yet. Interestingly, when the Pope met with Muslims in Cologne last month, the Pope refused to meet with them in their mosque. They came to him, and he told them to knock off the terrorism stuff. And he didn't invoke "Allah the most merciful."
McCarrick is retirement age but he claims the Pope has asked him to stay on. Since he lied about the contents of a letter he had received from the Pope earlier, I'm not sure how reliable this is. In any case, I hope the Pope rethinks it and tells him to retire immediately if not sooner.
In all due respect to the Cardinal, he just prayed to Satan and called that essense of all evil "God." There must have been dancing in Helltown that night.
"In all due respect to the Cardinal, he just prayed to Satan and called that essense of all evil "God." There must have been dancing in Helltown that night."
In Lebanon, when a Melkite or Maronite priest or hierarch prays even a part of the Liturgy in Arabic, he uses the word "Allah" when refering to God. Do your Eastern Rite brethren pray to the Evil One? Somehow I doubt it. Your Western Latin skirts are showing guys.
I am sorry to read this. Theodore Cardinal McCarrick has responsibility for so many souls. Courtesy CSPAN I saw him offer the invocation at a lunch welcoming other Muslims where he pointedly offered a prayer only to the Father, phrased in what are normally Catholic terms but excluding even the possbility of reference to the Son or the Holy Ghost. Sad times indeed.
I got a similar shudder yesterday when watching a glimpse of the closing prayer for the Katrina remembrance at the National Cathedral. After a short prayer by the Dean of the Cathedral, the Episcopal bishop went to the pulpit. He gave what probably passes for a prayer among ECUSAns, but offered no benediction whatsoever, which to me is a primary requirement at the close of any service when the Chief Pastor is in attendance. He after all is the local Apostolic Successor, or would be if the Church in question were not ECUSA. But what got me the most was seeing a crozier in his hands, a black (!!) pallium over his shoulders and no cope or mitre. To me the most confused display of Church hierarchy I've seen in a while. (The sight of a woman wearing similar garb right in front of the President also repels me).
This is not to present a "I'm shocked there's gambling in this casino" kind of comment, but to join in the saddened disapproval at some of the prelates in our Church.
Beleg
It's not the use of "Allah," which is simply the Arabic word for God, but the invocation of the classic Islamic formula. There was no need for him to do that.
"It's not the use of "Allah," which is simply the Arabic word for God, but the invocation of the classic Islamic formula."
Well I suppose he was just trying to be polite, but you know, that classic Islamic formula is actually an ancient Christian formula. Mohammadenism has a bunch of this stuff, for example, the physical way they pray. This really isn't surprising since it is, in fact, a type of Christian heresy.
That's true. But McCarrick's purpose in saying this was not to invoke an ancient Christian formula (and you're right, Islam is a syncretist heresy made up of bits of Christian imagery, bits of Jewish law, and bits of pagan belief). He was using formulas that, regardless of their roots, everyone now understands immediately as referring to Islam. And McCarrick was clearly saying it to smarm up to the Muslims.
A bishop, above all others, is charged with teaching and defending the truth. Being polite would mean not attacking the heretical nature of Islam at that particular moment, but to gush over Islam, peace and "Allah the most merciful" is way beyond polite.
I have always thought that McCarrick was fundamentally a sort of Unitarian type of guy, and those people live in a fog of "can't we monotheists all just get along," not recognizing any truth claims or the fact that there is a conflict between them. There can be only one truth, and Islam isn't it. As a bishop, it's his responsibility not to confuse people on this issue. They're already confused enough.
No respect is due. You hit the nail on the head.
The Allah of the muslims is the moon god, he is the god the requires the beheading of infidels and the mistreatment of women and the abuse of children.
Where have you been? Don't you know the history of Islam and who their Allah is? Don't you know that the Allah of Islam is not even remotely related to the God of the Jews and Christians?
"Where have you been? Don't you know the history of Islam and who their Allah is? Don't you know that the Allah of Islam is not even remotely related to the God of the Jews and Christians?"
Doesn't my screen name give you a hint? My people have been fighting the Musselmanoi for over 1300 years, one died on the Walls of The City next to the Emperor in 1453. We have preserved The Faith for centuries under the heel of the Mohammadens. Were your ancestors slaughtered by them or carried off to their pleasure palaces? Mine were! Of course I know about the moon "goddess" (not "god"). I suspect, at least I hope, a cardinal of the Church of Rome does too.
You Latins really are a bunch of prizes sometimes!
I thought his resignation wasn't accepted yet. Haven't figured out why exactly other than he's not 80.
"I have always thought that McCarrick was fundamentally a sort of Unitarian type of guy, and those people live in a fog of "can't we monotheists all just get along," not recognizing any truth claims or the fact that there is a conflict between them. There can be only one truth, and Islam isn't it. As a bishop, it's his responsibility not to confuse people on this issue. They're already confused enough."
I suppose you're right. Syncretism is a dangerous thing and when and if it is promoted by a hierarch it is a very dangerous thing. Maybe I should just be happy he's not one of ours! :)
You've touched on something which bears repeating: "As a bishop, it's his responsibility not to confuse people on this issue. They're already confused enough." As someone whose family suffered under the Mohammadens, it isn't likely that I could be confused, but of course most people here don't come from a background like mine. Point well made.
"You Latins really are a bunch of prizes sometimes!"
LOL!
Ad hominem won't brings us together will it? How do you know who our ancestors are? How do you know anything about us?
I think we have cleared up our differences.
The Allah of Islam, Sin, the goddess of fertility...is not the same person as the Allah of any Christian. There is no insult intended to anyone who is Greek or Levantine
Why do you want to divide us by calling us Latins?
"How do you know who our ancestors are? How do you know anything about us?"
Oh, that's easy. If you were Melkite, Maronite or some other type of Eastern Rite Catholic in communion with Rome you'd have known who I was and thus wouldn't have posed your questions and comments the way you did. If you are of Balkan, Middle Eastern or Orthodox Slavic background you'd have known that it was likely a Greek would know about these things. And finally, only a Latin Rite Catholic would, rightly or wrongly, go after +McCarrick the way you did.
"Why do you want to divide us by calling us Latins?"
But we are divided, my friend. Do you see profit to any of us in pretending otherwise?
"Why do you want to divide us by calling us Latins?"
"Latin" is not considered an insult to my knowledge. It's merely short-hand for referring to members of the western (Roman Catholic) church. The eastern Catholics use the term as well. It's like calling the Ukranian Catholics "Ukies." It's a term of endearment as much as anything.
" It's a term of endearment as much as anything."
I've got to remember that! :)
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