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To: Claud
In both cases, you have a self-aware spiritual entity putting on a mask in order to hijack devotional energies that properly should be directed to God.

Stop kissing your wife. Stop saying "I love you" to your mom.

Those relationships just hijack love that should be going to Almighty God.

You are missing the point. If God puts on a mask to receive my legitimate care and affection, it's in the person of my wife, my family, my fellow parishioners, the poor. Under the aegis of the Almighty, I owe an appropriate and condign love to each of these stated parties. I show my love for God by loving my family, my neighbor, my parents. Folks here on earth.

It is Satan, the fallen angel, who needs to show up in supernatural disguise to embezzle worship.

98 posted on 09/13/2005 10:16:52 AM PDT by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: TomSmedley
Under the aegis of the Almighty, I owe an appropriate and condign love to each of these stated parties.

PRE-CISELY. And that is *exactly* what we demand for Our Lady. Not to be adored as an uncreated Divinity, but to be honored with "hyperdulia" as the most blessed among women because it was in her AND (as people seem to forget) through her totally obedient will and permission that Christ came into the world.

Our argument is solely this--that we all owe Mary "under the aegis of the Almighty" a certain amount of appropriate and condign love because she willingly brought the Christ Child into the world. That love is most certainly not expressed by those who impiously regard the Holy God-bearer with little more affection than if she were a disposable Tupperware container.

You may well think our affection for Our Lady as exaggerated. You won't be the first. But to go the other extreme and say that she does not deserve *any* higher praise than, say St. Peter, is nonsense and easily refuted by the smallest glimpse throughout Christian history. Christian history, I might point out, *including* Luther and Calvin.

100 posted on 09/13/2005 10:37:05 AM PDT by Claud
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