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To: TomSmedley; NormB; biblewonk
Blessed be the name of Mary, Virgin and Mother.

Inability to honor and venerate Blessed Mary is a serious spiritual defect in you, particularly as men. Not only does it turn you away from her Son, it makes you worse husbands and sons in the world. My sincere recommendation to you three is to spend some time in prayer and worry less how other, better advanced through the merits of their infallible Catholic Church, Christians praise God and His creation.

If you have a question on how to become better men, please ask.

328 posted on 09/15/2005 9:38:04 AM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex
Inability to honor and venerate Blessed Mary is a serious spiritual defect in you, particularly as men.

Because you say so? It certainly doesn't say or imply that in the bible.

Not only does it turn you away from her Son, it makes you worse husbands and sons in the world.

Because you say so? It certainly doesn't say anything like this in the bible. You are into pure rationalization mode here. You might as well start dissing the bible because it disses women in so many ways.

330 posted on 09/15/2005 9:51:02 AM PDT by biblewonk (Luke 11:28 Yea rather , blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.)
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To: annalex
Inability to honor and venerate Blessed Mary is a serious spiritual defect in you, particularly as men. Not only does it turn you away from her Son, it makes you worse husbands and sons in the world.

My undiluted, unadulterated, undistracted love for God is a spiritual defect? My refusal to be a spiritual momma's boy makes me less of a man? Why is it, then, that the places where the cult of the BVM is strongest are also the places where sex roles are distorted? Latin American Machismo, for example, lets the man get away with all kinds of childish and abusive behavior, while the woman holds the purse strings. Don't you understand that your efforts to move a supplemental deity into the part of my consciousness reserved for God is sin?

332 posted on 09/15/2005 10:31:45 AM PDT by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: annalex
Worship of another God than the most high is a serious spiritual defect in you. Not only does it turn you away from his son, it makes you a worse husband and son in the world. My sincere recommendation to you is to spend some time in prayer to God and worry less how other, better advanced through the merits of Christ's singular work of atonement, Christians praise God INSTEAD of his creation.

If you have a question on how to become a true Christian and not a Cult of Mary apostate, please ask.

333 posted on 09/15/2005 11:11:12 AM PDT by NormB (Yes, but watch your cookies!!)
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To: TomSmedley; NormB; biblewonk
Understand that in order to learn to love you need to love more, not less. If it so happens that your love for your mother takes away from your love for Christ, you need to pratice Christian love.

This is a simple spiritual exercise for you three. Get a Crucifix, -- not an empty cross, a Cricifix, -- and put it in your bedroom. Every now and then, look at it.

This will put you at the foot of the Cross, and in the same position Mary and John stood.

This is an icon that explains the relationship very well:


337 posted on 09/15/2005 11:54:44 AM PDT by annalex
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