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To: phatus maximus

Mary's sacrifice?

How about watching her son die?

How about hearing the prophecies of Simeon and Anna when Jesus was an infant?

What about losing the child in the temple?

Just some of Mary's sorrows and sacrifices.


28 posted on 09/12/2005 8:06:06 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Mary's sacrifice?

What did she sacrifice?

You: How about watching her son die?

This would be a horribly sorrowful experience indeed, no sane person thinks otherwise...however, what did she sacrifice? Her son was the sacrifice, not the other way around...She knew great sadness indeed, however...No mother should have to see what she saw done to her son, but she also knew he was her Savior and knew he had to do this for her and all people...she was told this previously which leads to the next item you asked...

You: How about hearing the prophecies of Simeon and Anna when Jesus was an infant?

That her son would be despised and that her soul would be pierced too? Of course this would be very difficult to hear and to accept (and frankly understand the magnitude of what they prophesied) that her son would be killed... those words would do that to any woman, in fact how many mothers of soldiers do you hear say they died the day their son did...it's a natural reaction to seeing/hearing of one's child die, it truly is piercing to the soul...sorrow yes, sacrifice I don't know that I see sacrifice in that...

You: What about losing the child in the temple?

From Luke 2...

.43After the Feast was over, while his parents were returning home, the boy Jesus stayed behind in Jerusalem, but they were unaware of it. 44Thinking he was in their company, they traveled on for a day. Then they began looking for him among their relatives and friends. 45When they did not find him, they went back to Jerusalem to look for him. 46After three days they found him in the temple courts, sitting among the teachers, listening to them and asking them questions. 47Everyone who heard him was amazed at his understanding and his answers. 48When his parents saw him, they were astonished. His mother said to him, "Son, why have you treated us like this? Your father and I have been anxiously searching for you."

49"Why were you searching for me?" he asked. "Didn't you know I had to be in my Father's house?" 50But they did not understand what he was saying to them.

...What would any mother's reaction be to realizing her child is missing, especially with a full day's journey gone by already and three days after that yet? Fear? Panic? Uncertainy? Disbelief? Probably all of those, but again, I fail to see how that is a sacrifice...Jesus was in his Father's house doing his Father's bidding...

You: Just some of Mary's sorrows and sacrifices.

Respectfully...You indeed have pointed out some of the sorrows that Mary most undoubtedly experienced, but I just don't see sacrifice in these examples...I'm trying to understand your point of view so please explain more what you mean by sacrifice...I think that is where our passing ships are getting lost in the fog that currently seperates us...

God's Blessings...


32 posted on 09/12/2005 9:09:16 PM PDT by phatus maximus (John 6:29...Learn it, love it, live it...)
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