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The Prophetic Hurricane Strikes Again
American Vision ^ | Monday, September 12, 2005 | Gary DeMar

Posted on 09/12/2005 7:03:35 AM PDT by topcat54

The prophetic prognosticators are at the prediction game again. Greg Laurie, author of Are We Living in the Last Days?,” is peering through contemporary events like Hurricane Katrina, earthquakes, 9–11, and the tsunami that struck Southeast Asia on December 26, 2004 and claiming that these events are a prelude to the “rapture” of the church. George Noory, host of “Coast to Coast AM,” follows a similar line of thought. “I don't think there’s any doubt. I think we’re really in [the end times].” We’ve read about similar predictions for centuries. Nearly 20 centuries of predictions of the end have yellowed and grown faint with the parchment and paper they were written and printed on.

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TOPICS: Theology
KEYWORDS: dispensationalism; endtimes; matt24; prediction; signs
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Four Prophetic Keys

Many reasons could be put forth to explain why our Christian counterparts of long ago were wrong about what they believed to be prophetic certainties. The signs seemed to fit the times. How can we avoid their mistakes? The following prophetic keys will help any interpreter unlock the door to the prophetic past and the prophetic future:

We’ll look at each of these over the next few days.


1 posted on 09/12/2005 7:03:42 AM PDT by topcat54
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2 posted on 09/12/2005 7:06:28 AM PDT by topcat54
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To: topcat54

End times or not - you better be ready!


3 posted on 09/12/2005 7:09:46 AM PDT by roylene
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To: topcat54
We’ll look at each of these over the next few days.

Sounds like something an instructor would say to a class.

4 posted on 09/12/2005 7:12:14 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: roylene
That kinda raises the question: ready for what?

Yes, Jesus will return and bring His saints into glory while judging the nations and casting unbelivers into outer darkness. Yes, we are told to be like the wise virgins who kepts their lamps ready to the arrival of the bridegroom. Anything beyond that is speculation and unwarranted troubling.

5 posted on 09/12/2005 7:37:16 AM PDT by topcat54
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To: topcat54

>>Yes, we are told to be like the wise virgins who kepts their lamps ready to the arrival of the bridegroom. Anything beyond that is speculation and unwarranted troubling.<<

Amen


6 posted on 09/12/2005 7:43:24 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow (Ransomed from the Fall.)
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To: topcat54
You are correct. I assumed (stupid me) that because this was a prophesy post in the religion site that it was understood.
7 posted on 09/12/2005 10:38:40 AM PDT by roylene
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To: topcat54

Greetings, brother topcat. Isn't Greg Laurie pastor of that mega church in California, Harvest or whatever it is called? I do find it interesting that so many of our Arminian pastors love to try and turn every event under the sun to fit their personal end time view.

Thanks for the ping.


8 posted on 09/12/2005 11:16:20 AM PDT by Colin MacTavish
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To: Colin MacTavish
Arminian? Probably. Laurie is of the Calvary Chapel genre, and they tend to be anti-calvinistic.

Another Laurie-sm from his article in the (dispie-oriented) worldnetdaily:

Another thing we must consider as we see these signs of the times, or these "birth pains," is these are reminders to us that the return of Jesus is near and we need to be ready spiritually.

The Bible teaches that there is a generation of people who will not see death, but rather will meet the Lord in what is often referred to as the rapture of the Church.

Could we be that generation? Time will tell. But if I were you, I would pay careful attention to all that is happening – you will be glad that you did!

If these are truly "birth pangs" then this must be the generation. No hedging, Greg, either the Bible must be taken "literally" or "this generation" is no different than the scores that have gone before. Either a sign is a sign, or hurricane Katrina means nothing eschatologically. So, which is it? Tell us plainly, just like Jesus did.
9 posted on 09/12/2005 11:45:23 AM PDT by topcat54
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To: roylene

I like your homepage.


10 posted on 09/12/2005 12:30:50 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (Steven Wright: "So what's the speed of dark?")
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The more I read of...

Dispensationalism

...the more it reveals itself to be a recent trend of a political nature, cooked up in the 19th century when various spiritualisms were all the vogue, and is currently being used to further political ends.

11 posted on 09/12/2005 12:40:28 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (Steven Wright: "So what's the speed of dark?")
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Thanks.


12 posted on 09/12/2005 12:43:45 PM PDT by roylene
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To: topcat54
We’ll look at each of these over the next few days.

Could you hurry please? I'm in the path of Ophelia...

13 posted on 09/12/2005 12:46:46 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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If these are truly "birth pangs" then this must be the generation. No hedging, Greg, either the Bible must be taken "literally" or "this generation" is no different than the scores that have gone before.

The pride of men, every generation thinks it is the last.

(And I say that being mindful that I often think "Come Lord Jesus.)

14 posted on 09/12/2005 12:48:09 PM PDT by Gamecock ("Grant what Thou commandest, and command what Thou dost desire." Augustine)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Stock up on water, crackers, cheese, cans of tuna and batteries. Stay safe.


15 posted on 09/12/2005 1:26:05 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (Steven Wright: "So what's the speed of dark?")
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Thanks. We're all stocked. But, unless things change we're not really in her path.

We could use some rain.


16 posted on 09/12/2005 1:51:09 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Gamecock

Speaking of the pride of men...my teams had both good and bad weeks. Good News: my high school team (last year's Ohio state champ) beat the cross-nation Texas champion pretty handily. My pro team (Bengals) looked good on their first game of the season in nearly a decade....but perhaps that's because the Browns aren't so hot. Time will tell.

On the down side: My Cincy team in their inaugural Big East season had their keesters handed to them by Penn State. The OS Buckeyes threw a game to Texas in the last quarter....no national championship this year. But it was a pretty even match. (Maybe they are a good team.)

I noticed that one of your teams, from whom you've taken your handle, didn't handle Georgia by a few points. Was it a heartbreaker?


17 posted on 09/12/2005 2:56:48 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I disagree. The earliest fathers were premillennialist, imo, and did look for an earthly kingdom out of Jerusalem.


18 posted on 09/12/2005 3:02:11 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Quix

ping


19 posted on 09/12/2005 3:04:15 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (Check out my profile if you wanna buy a boat)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

"Stock up on water, crackers, cheese, cans of tuna and batteries. Stay safe."

Don't forget the Spam and Dinty Moore stew.





20 posted on 09/12/2005 3:04:18 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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