[murphE]

You're saying that if the guy who makes canon law, essentially the regent of the Catholic Church here on earth absent Jesus Christ, says you're excommunicated, but doesn't dot the 'i' or cross the 't' it's not a valid excommunication? That's gibberish.

I'm saying a pope can be in error in his application of canon law, I'm not quite sure what you think I'm saying. Do you think that popes are protected from error with regard to application of canon law?

[marshmallow]

I'm saying a pope can be in error in his application of canon law, I'm not quite sure what you think I'm saying.

No, you've both gone much further than that.

You're not saying that a Pope can be in error.

You're both saying that he most definitely is in error. Without any question. You called it "a reality."

You're saying that he's wrong and you're right.

[WriteOn]

The papacy is a monarchy. They don't call it the Holy Roman Empire for nothing. When the monarch exiles you, it doesn't matter if you disagree with the writ of exile, you're kicked out. You know what the tiara on the papal arms means, right? (I guess Benedict the XVI opted not to keep the tiara, but that's a new thing.)