Yes.
You're saying that it doesn't matter what Benedict XVI or the Church says on this matter?
Oh no it does matter. As long as the pope allows this to go on these men suffer a grave injustice, like the falsely convicted man suffers every day he is imprisoned. As well as the injury to their good names, which may never be fully restored.
They're [the excommunications] are invalid, period?
Yes.
Is this some sort of official proclamation?
No, it's the correct application of canon law, much like the correct application of the Constitution in no way gives any woman the "right" to murder her unborn child. Does one have to be a member of the court to know that?
If this Pope or a future Pope decides such, I'll have absolutely no problem with that decision. If a Pope is humble enough to admit error, I'd certainly be prepared to do so.
I'm glad to hear that. Mostly I'm glad to hear that you acknowledge the possibility for a pope to be in error in this matter, (however remote you think that possibility.)
Is this what happened at Campos?
I'm not really sure. I'm not knowledgeable about all the details in Campos. I do remember reading that the specifics of the situation of the Campos bishop were not exactly the same. Perhaps Gerard knows more.
You're saying that if the guy who makes canon law, essentially the regent of the Catholic Church here on earth absent Jesus Christ, says you're excommunicated, but doesn't dot the 'i' or cross the 't' it's not a valid excommunication? That's gibberish.
And I'm about as SSPX-friendly as you can get without drinking the kool-aid.
The relevant passage:
In this document, the Union will be canonically established as a personal Apostolic Administration, directly dependent upon this Apostolic See and with territory in the Diocese of Campos. It will be a cumulative jurisdiction with that of the local Ordinary. Its governance will be entrusted to you, Venerable Brother, and your succession will be assured.
The faculty of the Apostolic Administration to celebrate the Eucharist and the Liturgy of the Hours according to the Roman Rite and the liturgical discipline codified by my Predecessor St Pius V, with the adaptations introduced by his Successors up to Bl. John XXIII, will also be confirmed.
Thus with deep joy, in order to effect full communion, we declare the remission of the censure referred to in can. 1382 of the Code of Canon Law, in all that concerns you, Venerable Brother and, likewise, the remission of all censures and the dispensation from all irregularities incurred by other Members of the Union.
"Remission" would seem to me to indicate not that the original excommunication was invalid or null but rather that it has been removed and is no longer in force.
It's the former that you guys want, right?