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Strange, but true: the lack of Scripture reading in evangelical worship
<strike>Wannabe</strike> Newbie Anglican ^ | 8/22/2005 | Mark Marshall

Posted on 08/22/2005 6:26:33 PM PDT by sionnsar

As this piece points out, the churches where you are least likely to hear Scripture read during services are often those where the authority and teaching of Scripture are most emphasized, particularly evangelical churches. Strange, but true. And the writer’s experience is that even Anglican evangelical churches often read Scripture in their worship less.

My personal experience as one with a evangelical/fundamentalist background? My current REC church is the first of my church homes where Scripture is regularly read during services outside the context of the sermon.

I think this is one way is which evangelical-style worship impoverishes itself. As I’ve experienced first hand, there is a power to formally reading the raw word of God in worship. I'd much rather sit and listen to the reading of Scripture than sing one more “praise and worship” song. And Scripture reading is a prominent feature of Jewish and Christian worship through the centuries. Why cut oneself off from that?

Yes, I greatly value the role of Lector, of reading the Scripture lessons aloud during services.

My reading duties begin this Sunday.


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To: Gamecock

Pat was speaking as an American, and assuming our "sword."

As political debate, I really don't have any problems with what he said.


261 posted on 08/25/2005 7:32:25 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker

"Both the traditional and modernized Lutheran worship service is little more than a direct lift of the Roman Missal with the Protestant offending portions emphasizing the Eucharistic sacrifice and ministerial priesthood excised.

We even have the same order of readings and chants to be said throughout the year."

Of course. The Lutheran church retained as much of Catholic worship as consistent with its core doctrines. Just because the Catholic church got some things wrong doesn't mean they get all things wrong :)


262 posted on 08/25/2005 8:24:14 AM PDT by GAB-1955 (Proudly confusing editors and readers since 1981!)
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To: jude24
Pat Robertson is an embarassment for Christianity. I sometimes wonder if he, Falwell, and the entire TBN network are not part of some grand conspiracy to discredit Christians with their antics.

I agree about Robertson, but he and Falwell are not part of The Blasphemy Network, I don't think.

263 posted on 08/25/2005 8:54:30 AM PDT by Mister_Diddy_Wa_Diddy
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To: sionnsar

All I know is that the Catholic Mass has the Liturgy of the Word every day and bible verses are read and the priest discusses the passages and their meaning to the parisioners.


265 posted on 08/25/2005 12:12:43 PM PDT by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed.)
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To: chrcowboy; Revelation 911; Gamecock; Hermann the Cherusker; O-Henry; Religion Moderator

You know, I'm really not sure what your game is, but it's a game. Too bad you aren't funny.

You are not a cowboy. You are not an Arminian.

You don't even make a heck of a lot of sense.

Carry on with your nonsense if you must. I have no power to do anything about it.

But leave me out of it.

Do give my regards to "Helen."


266 posted on 08/25/2005 12:14:19 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: chrcowboy; Corin Stormhands; Gamecock; Hermann the Cherusker; O-Henry; Religion Mod; P-Marlowe; ...
Revelation 911, would you mind taking the poll results in your email

yes I would....that would obligate my caring what youve discussed

I havent reached that point

seems you all share the sams pic for each derision though

267 posted on 08/25/2005 12:25:32 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911

sams = same


268 posted on 08/25/2005 12:27:35 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: jude24; xzins
Pat Robertson is an embarassment for Christianity. I sometimes wonder if he, Falwell, and the entire TBN network are not part of some grand conspiracy to discredit Christians with their antics.

The problem with Robertson and Falwell is that they are in the media's gunsights. The devil knows that a good way to discredit christianity is to discredit Christians. So, when you see high profile Christians embarrssing themselves or saying stupid stuff, I think we need to realize that the Devil himself is working overtime to destroy their ministries and their witness.

As long as there are Christians, there will be high profile Christians and as long as there are High profile Christians there will be Satan at the ready to assist them in making fools of us all.

If I were the media's go to man for statements on Christianity, I doubt very seriously that I would do as well as either Robertson or Falwell. I'm sure I would have done more than my fair share to embarass the whole of Christianity by some stupid innane remarks that the devil and the media would be more than happy to run with.

Frankly what Robertson said yesterday was ok by me. It was his later apology that was embarrasing. He had nothing to apologize for. The fact is that if Chavez thinks the US is out to assasinate him, then heck, why not assasinate him? Maybe then the next tin-pot dictator will think twice about making negative statements about America.

Why do you guys think that Ghadaffi all of a sudden became our ally in the war on Terror? Because he was terrified.

269 posted on 08/25/2005 1:04:57 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: Gamecock; xzins
I.m not really sure that Pat messed up.
If he had said the same thing about Osama nobody would care.

Evil is evil and all he did was expose it and want it destroyed.

How can anyone have a problem with that?
270 posted on 08/25/2005 3:41:53 PM PDT by pro610 (Faith the size of a mustard seed can move mountains.Praise Jesus Christ!)
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To: pro610; Gamecock; P-Marlowe

I agree pro610. If this were Osama bin Laden, then no one would have raised an eyebrow.

This is the socialist MSM protecting one of their own down in Venezuela....as they did with Ba'athist (national socialist) Saddam, btw. I don't know why Christians cannot see that.


271 posted on 08/25/2005 3:47:39 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins

There's a critical difference between Bin Laden and Chavez: Bin Laden attacked us.


272 posted on 08/25/2005 3:49:28 PM PDT by jude24 ("Stupid" isn't illegal - but it should be.)
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To: jude24; P-Marlowe; Gamecock

There is only the extent of the attack.

Are you aware of the evidence linking Chavez to the drug trade in America....he is simply today's version of Manuel Noriega. He is using petro-dollars to destabilize an entire region, supporting both the drug cartel and the marxist rebel movement in neighboring countries.

Therefore, I have no problem -- as a political statement by an American with the right of free speech -- saying that Chavez could be a just target.

At the same time, I could pray for his salvation. I don't consider those contradictory statements. One is political and one is religious.


273 posted on 08/25/2005 3:55:55 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: jude24

I don,t disagree with you but in the eyes of God evil is evil.


274 posted on 08/25/2005 4:06:45 PM PDT by pro610 (Faith the size of a mustard seed can move mountains.Praise Jesus Christ!)
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To: xzins

I agree.

I'm not offended, as a Christian or an American.

If fascists heard that their days were numbered, maybe there would be less fascists in the world.


275 posted on 08/25/2005 4:14:01 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: jude24
Actually ,Chavez apparently gave money to Osama and Al-Qaida

All the more reason to take him out.

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_id=30350
276 posted on 08/25/2005 4:28:29 PM PDT by pro610 (Faith the size of a mustard seed can move mountains.Praise Jesus Christ!)
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To: pro610

I trust Hillary Clinton more than I trust WorldNetDaily.


277 posted on 08/25/2005 4:29:13 PM PDT by jude24 ("Stupid" isn't illegal - but it should be.)
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To: jude24

A fact is a fact no matter the source.

The difficulty is in determining fact from assumption from opinion.

Therefore, Hillary Clinton speaking factually or WND speaking factually should cause all to register the facts spoken despite the source.


278 posted on 08/25/2005 4:35:19 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: jude24
Is the Weekly Standard also not trustworthy to you?

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/002/346jorji.asp

Personally ,I don't trust he NY Times and I,m not alone in that thinking
279 posted on 08/25/2005 4:42:01 PM PDT by pro610 (Faith the size of a mustard seed can move mountains.Praise Jesus Christ!)
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To: xzins
If you noticed the article mentioned Judicial Watch,and yes Judicial Watch is responsible for bringing out the Able Danger research on Mohamed Atta before 911 happened.

Is Judicial Watch not credible?
280 posted on 08/25/2005 4:50:18 PM PDT by pro610 (Faith the size of a mustard seed can move mountains.Praise Jesus Christ!)
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