Benedict XVI's Visit to Cologne Synagogue

EWTN ^ | August 18, 2005

[NYer]

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POPE BENEDICT XVI VISIT TO THE SYNAGOGUE, COLOGNE, GERMANY(60:00) LIVE
Friday  August 19, 6:00 AM

[NYer]

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[SJackson]

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[BulldogCatholic]

Lets see, he has enough time to go to the synagogue but not the Traditional Mass being said?

Just more ecumenical false religion unfortunatly by the post Vatican II church. Unity at any price with tradition and church doctrine for sale to the higest bidder

[NYer]

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[AnAmericanMother]

Oh, for Christ's sake (and I mean that!) please cut it out!

You appear on EVERY Catholic thread like the spectre at the feast, badmouthing the Church and the Pope and anybody else who doesn't pass your SSPX Litmus test.

Will you PLEASE give it a rest, and let those of us who are not unhealthily fixated on VCII enjoy the Holy Father's historic visit and his wise words?

[BulldogCatholic]

Historic vistit to a synagogue?

Why not fixate yourself on the Hindu worship that JPII allowed and demanded to take place an Fatima and then hung the Bishop out to dry when SSPX protested

Wake up and smell the coffee, the church is selling us out and we need to stand up and demand a stop to this false religion the vatican is pushing like some drug

[NYer]

Historic vistit to a synagogue?

Yes ... this is an historic moment and merits our attention. Many people forget - or do not realize - that Christianity came from Judaism. As the church expanded beyond the realm of Judaism, it adapted itself to the people and cultures in which it took root. This cultural adaptation resulted in the 22 different rites of the Catholic Church today.

It is from Jewish roots that the church of Antioch sprung. In fact, the church of Antioch was founded by St. Peter and it was there that the terms "Christian" and "Catholic" were first used. The first Christians were Jews.

Jesus, Mary and the Apostles were ALL Jews! Our salvation comes from the Jews.

[AnAmericanMother]

Excuse me, Jesus WAS a Jew. An observant Jew. And as he was also God, he kept His Law perfectly. And he said more than once that he came not to destroy the Old Law, but to fulfill it. And that "not one jot or tittle" of the Law should pass, til heaven and earth themselves pass.

You're barking up the wrong tree here.

[sassbox]

I was hoping this thread could make it past 4 posts before someone started spewing anti-semitic garbage :-(

[AnAmericanMother]

The Jews are our elder brothers and sisters . . . as St. Paul said, we gentiles are family members by adoption, they are by birthright. We owe them every respect due our older family members, even when we disagree on details. < g >

And it seems to me that we need not worry about the Jews from a salvation standpoint -- God does not break his covenants and he will take care of his chosen people.

[Pyro7480]

As i just said on another thread, you have the tact of a Viking marauder.

[Pyro7480]

And it seems to me that we need not worry about the Jews from a salvation standpoint -- God does not break his covenants and he will take care of his chosen people.

Still, don't we need to worry about any soul that doesn't accept Jesus as Lord and Saviour, and is separated from the sacraments?

[kosta50]

Jesus, Mary and the Apostles were ALL Jews

That is such a worn-out cliche, NYer. The key word is were. I doubt they are counted as Jews among the Jews. They ceased being Jews when they embraced Christian teaching. Otherwise, Christinity would be known as Judaism. And Judaism is for the Jews only. Jews were chosen by God to reveal Him to others -- so the whole world could worship the God of Abraham, not so the whole world would became Jewish. And, in that, the salvation is from the Jews -- those who no longer practiced Judaism.

A synagogue is where Christ specifically is not welcome, and for the Pope to go there is somewhat unbecoming,IMHO.

[familyop]

"Why not fixate yourself on the Hindu worship that JPII allowed and demanded to take place an Fatima and then hung the Bishop out to dry when SSPX protested"

The piece behind the following link (SSPX site) is nothing more than the hateful agitation propaganda that's been going on for over 1700 years. Everyone should be familiar with what they say to their own kind, though.

THE MYSTERY OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE IN HISTORY
By Rev. Frs. Michael Crowdy & Kenneth Novak
Originally printed in the April 1997 issue of The Angelus magazine.
http://www.sspx.org/against_the_sound_bites/mystery_of_the_jews.htm
(Antisemitic in the extreme.]

[Michael81Dus]

What a great symolism. A German Pope having worn the Wehrmacht uniform as a young teenager now comes back on his first trip to the foreign since he became the head of the Roman-Catholic Church and visits a Synagogue.

[AnAmericanMother]

As a very wise old priest said to me once, that's not our problem . . . that's God's problem.

I'll pray for them of course, privately, for their conversion. But I'm not worried about them because God has spoken for them. I'm much more worried about the "secular humanists" with no God beyond their own appetites.

[NYer]

A synagogue is where Christ specifically is not welcome, and for the Pope to go there is somewhat unbecoming,IMHO.

Keyword = IMHO, to which you are entitled.

" The Church, therefore, cannot forget that she received the revelation of the Old Testament through the people with whom God in His inexpressible mercy concluded the Ancient Covenant."
NOSTRA AETATE

[Dominick]

Why not fixate yourself on the Hindu worship that JPII allowed and demanded to take place an Fatima and then hung the Bishop out to dry when SSPX protested

You can't cite a reference to this, because it didn't happen. A complaint about a Hindi visit was filed by Fr. Gruner at the Fatima Center, not the SSPX.

Fatima Center reported, from a Portuguese television broadcast, that they had said a Hindi prayer, and laid flowers at the feet of Our Lady of Fatima. Fatima center used the word ritual, but did not specify the ritual used. What was reported by those present was flowers were laid at the feet of an Image of Our Lady of Fatima, as pilgrims have done for years, and a Hindi Temple leader addressed his people. There was no Hindi ritual, it was a Catholic sacramental ceremony.

The Bishop reports:
The Bishop of Leiria-Fatima then says, "We don’t want to be fundamentalist, we don’t want that, but we want to be honest, sincere and want to communicate by osmosis the fruitfulness of our rituals, so that we may produce fruits. I am pleased to meet them."

The Bishop was trying to show Hindi visitors what visitors do at Fatima, and allowed the Hindi to take part in a Catholic sacramental. The Bishop was trying communicate our Catholic Faith to Hindu People.

After this visit, Rector Guerra was still in place, and contributing to Vatican Studies. He made a report on Ecumenicism at the Shrine with other rectors here: 4th European Congress on Pilgrimages and Shrines (from the Vatican.va site)
So much for being hung out to dry.

You have zero interest in getting your facts straight, they get in the way of the ax you have for the Catholic Church.

[NYer]

Aug. 19 (Bloomberg) -- Benedict XVI today became the first pope to visit a German synagogue, on his second day at the World Youth Day festival of the Roman Catholic Church in Cologne.

The pontiff, inaugurated in April, is following in the footsteps of his predecessor, the late John Paul II, who was the first pope to enter a Jewish house of worship, in Rome in 1986.

``That the pope has accepted our invitation is an impressive step we can't cherish high enough,'' Rabbi Netanel Teitelbaum said on the Web site of the synagogue, which represents the city's largest Jewish community. ``For the whole Jewish-Christian dialogue and the Jews in Germany this visit has an immense glow.''

The pontiff is working to enhance understanding between the faiths, and will meet with Protestant leaders later today and with representatives of Muslim communities tomorrow as part of his four-day visit to the cathedral city of 1 million, a traditional Catholic stronghold.

Benedict commemorated the 6 million Jewish victims of the Holocaust at the synagogue's memorial site and listened to Teitelbaum sing the Kaddish, or Jewish prayer for the dead, before the rabbi gave a speech. The pope also was scheduled to address the gathering.

Pogrom

Cologne's Jewish community, which says it's the oldest north of the Alps, with records dating back to 321, was destroyed in a pogrom in November 1938 when Nazis demolished Jewish synagogues, shops and apartments across the country.

Some 11,000 Cologne Jews died at the hands of the Nazis in the following years until the end of World War II in 1945, when a group of survivors re-established the city's Jewish community. It now has 5,000 members, the majority of them having joined in the past few years from Russia.

Israel's ambassador to Germany, Shimon Stein, attended the ceremony, along with Paul Spiegel, chairman of the Jewish Central Council in Germany, and Interior Minister Otto Schily.

An estimated 400,000 young people from almost 200 countries are gathering in Cologne to worship with the German-born pope, who is on his first foreign trip since he became the leader of the Catholic Church. The number of pilgrims is expected to swell to 800,000 by Sunday, when the festivities will end.

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AP - Fri Aug 19, 8:40 AM ET

Chaim Adler, right, cantor of the synagogue in Cologne, thanks Pope Benedict XVI during his visit to a synagogue in Cologne, Germany, Friday, Aug 19, 2005.

Pope Benedikt XVI. shakes hands with Rabbi Netanel Teitelbaum, right, as he leaves the synagogue in Cologne, Germany, Friday, Aug 19, 2005.