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To: BipolarBob
Enoch and Elijah were both taken up to heaven. Do you really think that our Lord would grant them greater privilege and honor than he would to his own mother?
67 posted on 08/15/2005 11:39:22 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

Well naturally He would make His mother a Goddess wouldn't He. It's very easy and obvious and very natural to argue that He would.


81 posted on 08/15/2005 12:13:49 PM PDT by biblewonk (A house of cards built on Matt 16:18)
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To: Petrosius
Do you really think that our Lord would grant them greater privilege and honor than he would to his own mother? I don't have a clue as to His intentions on that topic. It's not in the Bible and I am not inclined to speculate because I think it is unimportant. If this were of some import, there would be more guidance in the Scriptures regarding it. I am sure she was chosen by God for a special mission and she acheived it.
82 posted on 08/15/2005 12:20:38 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: Petrosius
Enoch and Elijah were both taken up to heaven

See John 3:13 wriiten during the last decade of the 1st century."No one has ever gone to heaven except the one who came from heaven-the Son of Man."

148 posted on 08/15/2005 6:31:15 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Petrosius

Most believe that Enoch and Elijah will be the two witnesses that return during the Great Tribulation to stand as witnesses against what is taking place during that time. They will be killed, lay three days in the streets, then be resurrected and taken up into heaven. Unless something changes and three witnesses are needed, I don't see Mary being in the crowd that was "translated", not "assumed". The Bible states that it is appointed unto man, man being mankind, of which Mary was a part, once to die, then the judgment. It is apparent that Catholics do not believe in "sola scriptura", or the scriptures alone, although that in itself is biblically wrong. Jesus never acknowledged Mary in any other way than as His earthly mother. At one point when He was ministering to people and his mother and brothers were trying to get in to see Him, he told those around that all of the people there were his family, not giving any special consideration to His own earthly family. Of course that goes against any Marian tradition as well doesn't it? For her to have had any other children. I believe Catholic "tradition" holds that she remained perpetually a virgin, although that is also against biblical and historical evidence.


220 posted on 08/30/2005 11:06:39 AM PDT by XSive Rider
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