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To: xzins; RnMomof7; visually_augmented
The most positive thing that can be done for Charles Manson is to keep him in prison.

Who and why would anyone want to do something "positive" for Charles Manson?

Your "hell is for his own good" Helter-Skelter analogy is the weakest thing I've ever seen you write. I hope you're jesting.

Hell is not for the benefit of its inhabitants. It is not for correction or rehabilitation. Hell is torment inflicted by God as punishment for unpardonable sin.

Anything less and you demean Christ's atoning sacrifice to keep us out of hell.

543 posted on 08/04/2005 12:27:50 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Ohhhh?

Then Christ's sacrifice wasn't out of love?

Also, as I said, since I accept that God is most immediately understood through His basic characteristic which is "God is Love," then I come to conclusions that others might not.

I think that everything God does can be related at some level to his love. Someone asked how consignment to hell can be loving FOR that person. The answer is a variation on the justice response. Justice is generally seen as loving for those who've been wronged. My take on it is that it's also the most positive action one can take toward th criminal.

Ergo, the best thing you can do for Manson, imho, is protect him from himself.


545 posted on 08/04/2005 2:49:02 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; xzins
Who and why would anyone want to do something "positive" for Charles Manson?

Because some people might agree with the following:

Nor ought it to seem absurd...[to say] that God not only foresaw the [Tate Labianca murders], and [Charles Manson's sins]; but also at his own pleasure arranged [them].

Now if that premise is even remotely true, then one would think we ought to do all that we can to make Manson's life comfortable before God burns him in hell for (among other things) effectively carrying out God's plan and purpose for his own life and for those whom he killed.

554 posted on 08/04/2005 5:53:40 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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