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To: Graves

Not me. By all accounts, mohammed was a man who convinced others he was a prophet for God, convinced them to kill for him to gain and keep power.

Just my opinion.


8 posted on 07/29/2005 6:40:46 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: rlmorel

"... mohammed was a man who convinced others he was a prophet for God, convinced them to kill for him to gain and keep power."

And that's being generous about it. JMO


9 posted on 07/29/2005 6:42:15 PM PDT by Graves (Remember Esphigmenou - Orthodoxy or Death!)
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To: rlmorel
The traditional story (which you can find in the Koran if you know how to dig it out) is that Mohammad attempted a reform of the local religion in Mecca.

However, the folks who ran Mecca and made a lot of money off the tourists who came to visit what was purported to have been Abraham's altar, didn't like his ideas so they decided to kill him.

He and his 12 disciples, their families and retainers, and other warriors who'd decided to adopt the new religion, then fled with Mohammad to the city of Medina.

Subsequently Mohammad's involvement with violence was from the standpoint of being under attack by others. No doubt you can take a lot of the combat stuff out of context and make it look like he started a local war, but the full picture portrays him as having been merely the first victim of a war started by others.

Mo also DID NOT CREATE THE ARAB EMPIRE. That was done by others AFTER MO'S DEATH!

The Koran was put together in Damascus, the first serious conquest. The story is that all of Mo's sermons and sayings had been faithfully recorded on pieces of wood.

We really don't know how much of the story is truth and how much is simply warmed over bilge, but much of what is attributed to the Koran by non-Moslems is not based in a clear reading of the text.

If you want to see what Moslems say the Koran says, and what they say Mo actually did, you can check the Internet for many sources. If you don't want to, then don't claim you have done so by asking a Southern Baptist minister.

11 posted on 07/29/2005 7:08:29 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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To: rlmorel

Mohammed wanted to tell the world that he was more preferred by God than was Jesus Christ, who gave his life as a sacrifice for the sins of the people.

Lucifer wanted to be greater than Jesus Christ as well.
Mohammed taught that Jesus never did die at all, and that God took him to heaven, and Mohammed taught that Jesus will return and then follow HIM, and live for only 40 years and die.


40 posted on 08/02/2005 2:33:35 PM PDT by tessalu
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To: rlmorel

Mohammed wanted to tell the world that he was more preferred by God than was Jesus Christ, who gave his life as a sacrifice for the sins of the people.

Lucifer wanted to be greater than Jesus Christ as well.
Mohammed taught that Jesus never did die at all, and that God took him to heaven, and Mohammed taught that Jesus will return and then follow HIM, and live for only 40 years and die.


41 posted on 08/02/2005 2:45:40 PM PDT by tessalu
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