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You have got to be kidding me!!!
1 posted on 07/20/2005 10:47:04 AM PDT by yavorssj
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Canadian National Public Radio Broadcasts Call for State Control of Religion
2 posted on 07/20/2005 10:51:44 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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The exclusion of women from the priesthood amounts to sexual discrimination in the workplace. That will be the angle of attack on the Catholic Church. It's coming. Just a matter of time.


3 posted on 07/20/2005 10:53:21 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: yavorssj
A longer thread, but with less quotes here:

Canadian National Public Radio Broadcasts Call for State Control of Religion

4 posted on 07/20/2005 10:53:41 AM PDT by annalex
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You know...we really need to guard that Northern Border ALOT better. We don't want that nonsense floating our way.


5 posted on 07/20/2005 10:54:45 AM PDT by madison10
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Of course the Vatican wouldn't like the changes, but they would come to accept them in time as a fact of life in Canada.

Like they accept the National Patriotic Church in China.

It's lovely to see national socialist concepts grow to maturity in Canada. Re-education camps, anyone?

6 posted on 07/20/2005 10:57:29 AM PDT by siunevada
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It should be unethical for any RRP to claim that theirs was the one true religion and believers in anything else or nothing were doomed to fire and brimstone.

Bob-a-loo! Why don't you start with the imams and get to the Catholics later? See how it goes? Work out the bugs in the system (that should appeal to an old engineer). They seem like a rational lot. Take a run at them for a start. While you're at it, insist that the genders should attend Friday prayers with no segregation.

And check all the locks on the doors before you tuck in to bed that night.

7 posted on 07/20/2005 11:07:59 AM PDT by siunevada
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Now what is the point of proposing this? I do it because I am worried that the separation between church and state is under threat.

So his solution is force the church to obey the state, under penalty of law?

Lies are truth, slavery is freedom, war is peace ... Orwell was a prophet.

11 posted on 07/20/2005 11:44:50 AM PDT by Campion (Truth is not determined by a majority vote -- Pope Benedict XVI)
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When the state determines religious doctrine and practices, it is usurping God. He might have in mind the old days in Europe when, in an attempt to end religious conflict, the monarch's creed became the creed of the country. (That's probably giving him too much credit, though, and the analogy doesn't exactly fit.) But this reminds me more --as our Senator Durbin might put it--of the Nazis, the Soviets and their Gulags, or some mad regime such as Pol Pot.

When Hell freezes over, Professor. Wake up, Canadians.

SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS!


13 posted on 07/20/2005 1:43:55 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (That Word, above all earthly powers -- no thanks to them-- abideth!)
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Are you sure that Dave Barry didn't write this commentary?

Although the introductory comments are (apparently) a bit more serious and provide some chilling thought as to the mindset of the Canadian press, I hope that the author of this commentary didn't injure his tongue too severely when he embedded it in his cheek.


16 posted on 07/20/2005 2:49:10 PM PDT by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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Kathy Shaidle, a Canadian writer, has declared her country's government "an anti-Catholic theocracy" on her worthy weblog Relapsed Catholic. And that was a few months before this guy flapped his lips on the radio.
18 posted on 07/20/2005 9:32:44 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox (Be not Afraid. "Perfect love drives out fear.")
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Those wacky Canadians!


19 posted on 07/20/2005 9:36:34 PM PDT by Roadside Couch
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[T]he Vatican ... would come to accept them in time as a fact of life in Canada.

Assuming this whole thing is not tongue-in-cheek ...

This betrays a serious ignorance of history. Catholicism has been outlawed in England [the most recent example ended only a little more than a century ago], and severely persecuted in various Communist regimes, among others. "The Vatican", and ordinary members of the faithful, did not acquiesce to these pressures. The doctrine was not changed to suit the Zeitgeist, nor was the practical application of that doctrine to daily life changed. People simply accepted their sufferings and quietly resisted. And, ultimately, the opposing regimes sickened, and the Church endured.

The Church does not belong to any earthly power, but to Christ. And we are not at liberty to alter His truth to suit political whims. The state may proclaim that 2+2=5 all it wants, the delusional populace may find immediate advantage in agreeing with such error, but no force can make the statement other than false. Denying the ontological nature of a thing will, eventually, have negative repercussions. The process during which those repercussion are played out will be extremely painful, but truth will eventually prevail. And the Church will still be there, after it's all over, to pick up the pieces and start the arduous task of rebuilding civilization.

When Popes crowned kings, it was a reminder that the state existed at the pleasure of God. Nothing the king could do in the civil realm could overturn the moral law, which is divine in origin. Naturally, this chafed, and temporal rulers were quick to find ways to avoid such limits to their power.

But, just in modern times, we've survived the Protestant Deformation, which was the first attempt to make the Church subservient to the state, the murderous excesses of the Endarkenment, the Kulturkampf, the rise of nihilistic Fascism, and sundry manifestations of atheistic Marxism. I expect we'll survive the Age of Hedonism as well.

What the advocates of the Culture of Death never seem to realize is that their "philosophy" is self-limiting. It contains within itself the seeds of its own destruction. It is cultural suicide, though it will murder a good number of innocents in the process. One has only to wait long enough, and the Culture of Death will be dead. The Catholic Church always wins by simply enduring, and it will be there again to pick up the pieces after this latest human folly has collapsed under the weight of its own nonsense.

20 posted on 07/20/2005 10:43:06 PM PDT by neocon (Be not afraid!)
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Can't religious leaders agree to adjust doctrine so all religions can operate within the code?

Does this guy not understand the whole concept behind 'religion'?

22 posted on 07/21/2005 6:29:53 AM PDT by asformeandformyhouse (I was going to respond to your post, but I thought I better wait til your meds kicked in.)
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