Posted on 07/13/2005 12:49:13 AM PDT by dsc
I don't like it when they dumb down things for an American audience. The UK version has philosopher's stone. BTW, here's an essay on that (philosopher's stone)
http://www.quackgrass.com/stone.html
It certainly is getting a lot of kids to read. I think that's a good thing as long as HP aren't the only books they read.
That's why I refer to the book as "Philosopher's Stone" and only read my British copy.
Will check that essay out... one of the more interesting takes on the Philosopher's Stone lately was a story in which it was made out of people...
Anyone who says that has no clue what they're talking about.
No, it was in a story. You can do whatever you want in your own fantasy world.
The original one wasn't, I know, but I thought it was an interesting parable about how desperate some people are for power.
Heh, my dad started me on Heinlein's juvenile novels when I was nine. Got permanently twisted after that. I also learned that I didn't have to put up with lousy novels just because they have a "Christian" label.
Lewis might have been heavy-handed, but he had a story worth telling and characters that were likable. Today it's all message and moral, no story.
I can top that. There was a two-word review for Mario Puzo's Fools Die: "Fools buy."
The Philosopher's Stone is Soylent Green?
Ugh, I try to forget the hideous scarring of my psyche that resulted from reading "Elsie Dinsmore". Good grief, I can't believe homeschooler types are trying to promote that sacharine nonsense as "good reading for girls". I couldn't decide whether to mock Elsie or just laugh.
You saw Fullmetal Alchemist, you know what I'm talking about.
Heh...I know. But for some reason, the way that sentence was phrased...I couldn't resist.
I love the stuff Heinlein wrote in his early years, for teens, and a few of his later novels like Troopers or "Moon is a Harsh Mistress". Then he... well, I don't like what he did later. Heinlein was one of my formative interests. I read Asimov too, but Heinlein was my inspiration.
The first book is called, “Harry Potter and The Sorcerer’s Stone.”No it's not. That's just ignorance
Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry is organized:Sheesh! It's the wixarding world version of an English Public School Of Couse it's organized.
Dumbledore (a man) (#1)) Supreme Mugwump
Snape (a man) (#2)
Professor Minerva McGonagall (a woman) (#2) Deputy Headmistress (book 1, p. 51)
No Snape is not #2, He's the Hosemaster of Slytherin, one of four Housemaster/mistresses
Minerva McGonagall is also Deputy Headmistress and would rank as Dumbledore's 2IC - It's a school remember they have a hierarchy.
Going off to DU to prove that the USA is an organized on occult lines. It has a President (a man), a Vice-Presiden (a man), a Secretary of State (a woman)
In the occult world, people "die" by "accident" or "natural causes."Happens in the muggle world too
portal - the opening between the physical plane and the astral plane through which entities move back and forth. Portals open with the correct words.Portal is an erudite (ie unAmerican) word for doorway or gateway
Book 1, p. 291. "There is no good and evil, there is only power and those too weak to seek it."Omitted to mention that that's the philosophy of Voldemort, who is evil 'K? Hitler and Saddam had similar ideas - that's what makes them bad guys.
Book 3, p. 250, 251. Hermione is reading a Rune translation.I'm shocked, shocked. But as few people these days have Old Norse as a first langauge, I don'r see the alternative
But thank you for confirming that foolish people have a problem with Harry Potter
I've done the "Philosopher's Stone is PEOPLE" bit. Hehehe... when my poor new victims get that far, I'll do it again... mwahaha... but that's a long way since we only just had horrible things happen to small innocent children.
Well, this is beating a dead horse, but saying that Harry Potter books make the occult look attractive is akin to saying the same about magic shows, etc., IMO. Do you also disapprove of those? Probably we should agree to not argue it anymore.
"You've interpreted my statement to mean, "Everything that's fun is bad," when my meaning was that some things that are fun are bad. Why did you do that?
Your interpretation of my statement may be the one that's false. But remember, it was you, not I, who associated fun with the Devil.
"Satan uses everything, including self-righteousness. What is startling about your statement is that you imagine those of us who see the danger are harboring feelings of self-rightousness.
I personally think that it could smack of self righteousness to go around condemning the books as satanic. And it is more the attitude with which it is said than the argument, I believe. However, I think I did finally say it was more silly than anything else. But I concede the point; I believe your motives are true. I will withdraw the sentence about self righteousness, except to acknowledge, as you do, its existence.
"Liberals, of course, take it as an article of faith that everyone who disapproves of anything they approve of is acting out of bad motives, like self-righteousness. It's frightening to see how many conservatives do the same thing.
Hey, Mr. DSC, you implied that those who enjoyed or approve of Harry Potter books are seduced by the Devil. Talk about an assumption of bad motives! No wonder I considered the possibility, perhaps wrongly, of self righteousness.
"I guess it's like Robert Bork said in "Slouching Toward Gomorrah," we're all contaminated by leftism to some degree."
Let me quickly say that I think it generally inappropriate for Freepers to label other freepers as liberals or leftists in place of actually arguing against their points. But I confess to rather liking the sound of that statement by Robert Bork. It is reminiscent of the classic 19th century statement by Sir William Harcourt, "We're all socialists now." It's worthy of its own thread, IMO. I plead innocent, btw...
Some things are just not worth attempting
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