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To: Christopher78

1. This is about Ireland, not Northern Ireland. Furthermore,
the fighting against the British was because of oppression, not theological matters as such.
2. Why don't the evangelicals go someplace to convert pagans if they must convert? Is it because they consider Catholics pagans? Then it is important for us to understand this.
3. 130 churches at 100 people each = 13,000 people - not yet an avalanche. But evangelicals, why don't you leave the Catholics alone? Please explain why you dislike our religion so much.


8 posted on 06/25/2005 2:37:39 PM PDT by charliemarlow
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"2. Why don't the evangelicals go someplace to convert pagans if they must convert? Is it because they consider Catholics pagans? Then it is important for us to understand this."

You full well know that most of these are only cultural Catholics who probably wouldn't be saved according to Catholics if they continued their current path. Really your little outburst is about power and politics.


10 posted on 06/25/2005 3:13:03 PM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: charliemarlow
That is a good point; why is Evangelicalism in direct competition with Catholicism?

Because Catholicism is the World's largest single denomination (though presumably Islam will overtake it shortly) - therefore a larger market for conversions!
11 posted on 06/25/2005 3:17:02 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (EU crisis? What EU crisis?)
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To: charliemarlow
But evangelicals, why don't you leave the Catholics alone? Please explain why you dislike our religion so much.

An honest question, deserving a respectful answer.

Because the primary theological loyalty of so many Catholics we knew and/or were is not to the Triune God, but to some substitute object of devotion. Many, for example, believe the sexless suffering mother goddess is a better bet than the remote, austere, and unfriendly Deity. For many catholics, Mary is more approachable than the God who "put on shoes" to walk among us. Mary is a mother, whose mother love is a better hook for our hopes than the sacrificial masculine love that embraced grusome death on our behalf. Mary shows up in visible apparitions, answers prayers, and gently nags her infants to "be good."

On a human level, discovering that salvation was a gift, the start of life, rather than its terrifyingly improbable goal, reserved for the deserving, has made permanent protestants out of many cradle catholics.

33 posted on 06/26/2005 1:08:34 PM PDT by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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