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To: gbcdoj; kosta50; Agrarian; MarMema

+John Chrysostomos didn't teach this, from the Baltimore Catechism:

" Q. Why is this sin called original?

A. This sin is called original because it comes down to us from our first parents, and we are brought into the world with its guilt on our soul.
49. Q. Does this corruption of our nature remain in us after original sin is forgiven.

A. This corruption of our nature and other punishments remain in us after original sin is forgiven. "

If Blessed Augustine is saying that +John Chrysostomos believed in what the Latin Church now calls Original Sin, +Augustine was wrong (and as we all know, he didn't understand, or least understand it well). I'm seeing a pattern here.


99 posted on 06/13/2005 3:17:08 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: gbcdoj; kosta50; Agrarian; MarMema

"If Blessed Augustine is saying that +John Chrysostomos believed in what the Latin Church now calls Original Sin, +Augustine was wrong (and as we all know, he didn't understand, or least understand it well)."

I mean Greek! Sorry!


100 posted on 06/13/2005 3:19:18 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis
I don't see how that differs. The Catechism has already explained what it means by guilt: "It is not unjust to punish us for the sin of our first parents, because their punishment consisted in being deprived of a free gift of God; that is, of the gift of original justice to which they had no strict right and which they willfully forfeited by their act of disobedience."

Now, since St. John says that baptism adds to the infants holiness and justice, isn't that the same thing as saying that they don't have it?

107 posted on 06/13/2005 5:35:13 PM PDT by gbcdoj (For if thou wilt now hold thy peace, the Jews shall be delivered by some other occasion)
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