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These women can no more become priests by this ceremony than chocolate chip cookies can become the Body of Our Lord even if a priest uses the correct words of consecration over them. Invalid matter, no Sacrament. And who the heck are these bishops pretending to ordain them? Why haven't they been excommunicated publicly for crying out loud???
1 posted on 06/08/2005 5:44:55 AM PDT by murphE
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2 posted on 06/08/2005 5:47:36 AM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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I agree with you.

These women are participating in an "In-Your-Face" ceremony.

But it is not a Catholic ordination.


5 posted on 06/08/2005 5:53:11 AM PDT by kidd
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Nine women, including one Canadian and one American, plan to defy the Vatican and become the first female Roman Catholic priests ...

No they're not. This is called playing at becoming a priest. Much as my kids played at being cowboys and indians.

7 posted on 06/08/2005 5:56:39 AM PDT by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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***And who the heck are these bishops pretending to ordain them? Why haven't they been excommunicated publicly for crying out loud???***

Read closer, they are women Bishops, secretly ordained... although that has no bearing either.


8 posted on 06/08/2005 5:57:44 AM PDT by irishtenor (Did I say something wrong? Or just intolerant?)
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Some of the women are divorced, others married. Celibacy or sexual orientation is not considered, but years of religious study is a prerequisite, Birch-Conery said.

Why have any prerequisites at all? This is much too strict! It's truly pre-Vatican2!

9 posted on 06/08/2005 5:58:51 AM PDT by madprof98
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Nine women, including one Canadian and one American, plan to defy the Vatican and become the first female Roman Catholic priests and deacons ordained in North America.

Good luck, b#tches.  That'll have as much authenticity and authority as when I ordained myself Pope.

Owl_Eagle

(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,

 it was probably sarcasm)

10 posted on 06/08/2005 5:58:54 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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As one C of E vicar put it when the Anglicans started to "ordain" wimmin:

"This is ridiculous. You can no more ordain a woman than you can a pork pie!"


12 posted on 06/08/2005 6:01:43 AM PDT by Tantumergo
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Ordained as what? In what?

It came to me last night that I really need to be praying a lot more.


13 posted on 06/08/2005 6:02:05 AM PDT by OpusatFR (Try permaculture and get back to the Founders intent. Mr. Jefferson lives!)
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Interesting that you should post this today. Just ran across a story that ran in May at CWNews.

Austrian bishop resigns after liturgical-abuse complaints

This is the same bishop from whose diocese 10 catholic women were ordained back in 2002. Back then, the bishop goaded them on ....

"Bishop Maximilian Aichern of Linz, from whose diocese most of the women come, said that while they could not receive the sacrament of ordination in the Catholic Church, the world conference of Catholic theologians was discussing the possibility of giving women a “temporary assignment” to act as priests."

As we all know, the women were subsequently excommunicated from the Church, as will these women. They should take their circus act to the Episcopal, Lutheran or Old Catholic Church, which is how Mary Ramerman was ordained to the priesthood.


16 posted on 06/08/2005 6:07:54 AM PDT by NYer ("Love without truth is blind; Truth without love is empty." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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All baby boomer feminazis I bet too. this is why I left the protestant church. too many feminists in the pulpit talking liberal politics instead of God.


17 posted on 06/08/2005 6:08:37 AM PDT by JustMytwocents70
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The ceremony, which is not sanctioned by the Vatican

This means they WILL NOT be priests, delusional heretics perhaps, but not priests.

Why don't they just become Episcopalians? Then they can become lesbian married priestesses.

20 posted on 06/08/2005 6:11:23 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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Jesus was not an affirmative action employer when He chose the twelve disciples. Take it up with him, you feminists, who say, "Jesus is Lord (Master)" but don't mean it.


21 posted on 06/08/2005 6:12:43 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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***The ceremony, which is not sanctioned by the Vatican...***

Duh!


28 posted on 06/08/2005 6:37:51 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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Sad story since these women are bitter and angry.

The thing is, normal Catholics really don't care what these women do. What they do on the St Lawrence River will not change anything one whit regardless of how much these women wish it so.

These chicks are the equivilent of the nutty sedevacantists who ordain themselves pope and have a nutty little following.

29 posted on 06/08/2005 6:38:38 AM PDT by american colleen (Long live Benedict XVI!)
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I blame the new mass - it totally obscures what the mass is and what the role of the Priest is.

If mass was just a community gathering, then there is no logical reason to forbid women priests, but it's not.

If the eucharist were just a "cookie" and we were participating in a symbolic meal then there is no reason why a woman cannot be a priest, but it's not.

It is obvious to me that these women do not understand what they are witnessing every time they attend mass, they see it as a power thing.

The whole discussion is moot anyways - ex cathedra statement coming up

4. Although the teaching that priestly ordination is to be reserved to men alone has been preserved by the constant and universal Tradition of the Church and firmly taught by the Magisterium in its more recent documents, at the present time in some places it is nonetheless considered still open to debate, or the Church's judgment that women are not to be admitted to ordination is considered to have a merely disciplinary force.

Wherefore, in order that all doubt may be removed regarding a matter of great importance, a matter which pertains to the Church's divine constitution itself, in virtue of my ministry of confirming the brethren (cf. Lk 22:32) I declare that the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women and that this judgment is to be definitively held by all the Church's faithful.

ORDINATIO SACERDOTALIS

5/22/94

30 posted on 06/08/2005 6:40:29 AM PDT by kjvail (Judica me Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta)
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IIRC, these dames HAVE been ex-comm'd but the news story failed to mention this minor detail...

What would be a LOT of fun would be to find out which Bishop(s?) attempted to ordain these bozos as Bishops.

Any suspects on your list?


39 posted on 06/08/2005 7:05:05 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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Probably because no one knows who they are.


42 posted on 06/08/2005 7:09:24 AM PDT by smpb (smb)
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It's all perfectly simple:

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/apost_letters/documents/hf_jp-ii_apl_22051994_ordinatio-sacerdotalis_en.html

APOSTOLIC LETTER
ORDINATIO SACERDOTALIS
OF JOHN PAUL II
TO THE BISHOPS
OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
ON RESERVING PRIESTLY ORDINATION
TO MEN ALONE
61 posted on 06/08/2005 7:53:11 AM PDT by tjwmason (Viva il Papa!)
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Ping


62 posted on 06/08/2005 7:54:23 AM PDT by TxKid
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"It is an immensely wounding part in our Catholic history..."

And all this time I thought it was the Body of Christ that received wounds. So now Christ is to be seen not as victim but aggressor?

Scripture's quite clear about who and what Christ destroys. It's quite clear whose voice the would-be ordinands are channeling.

69 posted on 06/08/2005 8:31:02 AM PDT by Romulus (Der Inn fließt in den Tiber.)
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