What We Have Lost

What We have Lost
...and the Road to Restoration
A critical look at the changes in the Catholic Church

This video gives you an intimate, up-close look at the destructive and wide-spread changes that have taken place in the two-thousand-year-old Catholic Church since the close of the Second Vatican Council in 1965.

Much of what you see will surprise you, maybe even shock you, and -- unfortunately -- will sadden you. "What We Have Lost" not ony exposes the external damage that has been done to the Universal Church, but goes deep behind the scenes to reveal the hidden changes; how and when they were made; and who made them.

This video asks the hard questions: Is the Church still Catholic? Has She lost the true faith? Does the clergy still truly "believe?" Can we count on today's Church to lead us to salvation? The answers found in "What We Have Lost" may bring you to anger -- or to tears. But after you see it, you will never look at the "modern" Church in the same way again.

And "What We Have Lost" is about hope. Hope in Jesus Christ and His one true Church on earth. Plus it's about the restoration of the traditional Latin Mass and the "Faith of our Fathers;" and it documents the groundswell of traditionalism within the Church, and how you can be a part of it...on the "Road to Restoration."

You're really confused now. The argument about outdating is your own:

At the time, the Church acted wisely by postponing public discussion of the Secret of La Salette." "As the growing number of Catholics increased in believeing the prophecies, and since much in Melanies secret now has become fulfilled ,these circumstances did not exsist in 1915,but do exist now"...thus with the blessing of the POPES,this(your written declaration) as time went on were over ridden.

As I said, this hardly differs in substance from that used by, e.g., Fr. Karl Rahner, S.J. to reject the PBC decisions. His case is actually stronger because of the negligence of the Holy See in enforcing these strictures since 1965. On the other hand, I don't see any reference of yours to the "blessing of the Popes" that you claimed, and which I asked you to provide. Of course, if it were indeed true that Abp. Levada, or his predecessors as prefect of the Holy Office, has officially retracted the censure on the so-called "Secret of La Salette", then I would grant you the point that you are free to promote this alleged account of an apparition (La Salette) which indeed is approved by the Church (unlike the 'secret' which you allege which is CONDEMNED by the Church and also placed on the Index of Forbidden Books).

Okay, so you are citing imprimaturs from BEFORE the Holy See condemned distribution of this vision in 1915. The judgments of the Apostolic See trump that of any bishop. "We call the right by which St. Peter or his successor has always been the head of the Church, and of all its bishops, the Primacy of St. Peter or of the Pope. Primacy means holding first place." (Baltimore Catechism No. 3, Q. 502).

I leave it at that and with these words...this Mother is NOT forbidden to anyone,not even you..read,learn and UNDERSTAND...SHE CAME weeping to earth! She is recogized and nothing else said on this according to your view or my view,matters little..MAry has the title,Our Lady of La Salette,she did come there,and with GoD many miracles bare witness !
You will find the answer to your written decree on page 178,in the first book I told you of.....and the EXPLAINATION.
Pope Pius IX,Pope Leo,XIII and Pope Pius X ...and with the blessing after 150 yrs. anniversary of this vision,Pope Pius XII gave his encouragement in honoring this La Salette Vision. READ ON !

Let me add that your newest post still doesn't make the distinction between the cult of Our Lady of La Salette and the distribution of the "Secret" which is claimed to have been delivered by her. The Church, however, does make this distinction: "the same Sacred Congregation orders all the faithful of any region not to discuss or investigate under any pretext ['the so-called Secret of La Salette, its diverse forms and its relevance to present and future times'] ... Whoever, indeed, violates this precept of the Holy Office ... if they are lay people, they are not permitted to the sacraments until they repent. ... However, this decree does not forbid devotion towards the Blessed Virgin under the title of Reconciliatrix commonly called of La Salette." (Decree of the Holy Office, Dec. 21, 1915). Please note that the statement forbids discussion or investigation "under any pretext", which includes that which you have attempted to provide, namely the supposed outdating of the Decree.

If you have a quote from Pius XII withdrawing the decree of the Holy Office (obviously encouragement of devotion to Our Lady of La Salette, etc. does not withdraw the Decree which concerns only the publicly distributed text alleged to be the "Secret of La Salette"), just post it here and you'll 'win'. Reference to Bl. Pius IX and Leo XIII and St. Pius X is irrelevant as the discussion of the Secret was condemned in 1915, after their deaths, and under the pontificate of Benedict XV.

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