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the church is holding off on approval.

However, having visited there myself, I saw great holiness...and had a spiritual awakening that helped me to find Christ...and the "fruits" were a number of local prayer groups that started.

As to the bishop, in 1987 he tried to close it down, but historically he has a feud with the local Franciscans (only franciscan priests were allowed in the Ottoman empire to minister to catholics when yugoslavia was under the muslims)...however, I found it very strange during the 1990's, when the Serbs were destroying many catholic churches and the serbs and croats were killing muslims and each other, that someone asked the bishop of Mostar what was the biggest problem in the local church...and he said Medjugore...sounds like he didn't have his priorities straight...when massacres are going on all around you and all you can complain of is a church that encourages prayer...

as for the seers, what impressed me is that they asked: How can you make the bishops approve of Mary's messages, and Viscka replied: It was not important for the bishop to approve of the vision ,it was only important to follow the messages, which was conversion to Christ, penance, spreading peace in your family, and prayer...

So many times references are made to the scripture admonition to judge things such as this "by their fruits". I'm just curious about the standards that each of us use in defining "good fruit", and would be grateful to anyone who would be willing to share their definition or standard. ( I have often referred to St. Ignatius http://www.intratext.com/IXT/ENG0036/_P3H.HTM and Fr. Harden's teaching http://www.therealpresence.org/archives/Christian_Spirituality/Christian_Spirituality_030.htm for my own wondering)

"as for the seers, what impressed me is that they asked: How can you make the bishops approve of Mary's messages, and Viscka replied: It was not important for the bishop to approve of the vision ,it was only important to follow the messages, which was conversion to Christ, penance, spreading peace in your family, and prayer..."

I must say this, in many of the church approved apparitions, the seers were always obedient to their superiors, i.e. the bishops. Obedience is a fruit of the Holy Spirit.