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To: LadyDoc

"as for the seers, what impressed me is that they asked: How can you make the bishops approve of Mary's messages, and Viscka replied: It was not important for the bishop to approve of the vision ,it was only important to follow the messages, which was conversion to Christ, penance, spreading peace in your family, and prayer..."

I must say this, in many of the church approved apparitions, the seers were always obedient to their superiors, i.e. the bishops. Obedience is a fruit of the Holy Spirit.


37 posted on 05/21/2005 9:24:29 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: diamond6
I must say this, in many of the church approved apparitions, the seers were always obedient to their superiors, i.e. the bishops. Obedience is a fruit of the Holy Spirit.

You are right on track, diamond6. The Franciscans in charge of the Medjugorje shrine were sent away for their disobedience.

38 posted on 05/21/2005 9:30:06 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: diamond6

Yes, obedience to the bishops, but not when the bishop oversteps his authority. When the bishop tried to shut it down, the Vatican stepped in. And why MY local bishop wrote in the Catholic newspaper we needed to "obey" the bishop of Mostar and not visit there, I wrote back and pointed out that he did not have that authority unless he declared the site a threat to morals, which he did not...the Vatican's position is that if you wanted to visit as a private citizen, and pray, it was okay...you just couldn't promote it publically.

And I should point out that "my" local bishop was busy desecrating art work from churches, supporting pedophile priests etc...

There seems to be aline between the devout and the liberal, and ironically many in the renewal of traditional Catholicism have been inspired or even converted in Medjugore...Mother Angelica, Mother Teresa, the Univ of Steubenville....


40 posted on 05/23/2005 4:13:16 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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