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| May 15, 2005
Posted on 05/15/2005 10:33:10 AM PDT by Alouette
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To: Americanexpat; vigilo; Salem
Last I heard Jesus was born a Jew, and was a jew until the day he died. Did I miss something? Nope, but I think "vigilo" is missing something.
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posted on
05/15/2005 4:02:15 PM PDT
by
Alouette
(The truth is not hard to kill, but a lie told well is immortal. -- Mark Twain)
To: NYer
You had asked about this:
Rome's current chief rabbi, Riccardo Di Segni, was unable to attend Benedict's installation Mass as the ceremony fell on the first day of Passover, but Jewish officials said they were surprised and pleased by Benedict's gesture in inviting him.
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posted on
05/15/2005 4:02:40 PM PDT
by
maryz
To: Bella_Bru
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posted on
05/15/2005 4:12:43 PM PDT
by
familyop
("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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posted on
05/15/2005 4:13:12 PM PDT
by
NYer
("Love without truth is blind; Truth without love is empty." - Pope Benedict XVI)
To: vigilo
"Outside of that, what fellowship does light have with the darkness?"
Some of us have even chosen to leave "inner light" religion and other mysticism behind.
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posted on
05/15/2005 4:14:27 PM PDT
by
familyop
("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
To: vigilo
Gee, and I didn't even know there were still Marcionists around.
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posted on
05/15/2005 4:19:38 PM PDT
by
maryz
To: vigilo
Judaism, rightly understood, and Christianity, rightly understood are PROFOUNDLY at odds, not just a little bit. Please explain "rightly understood". Otherwise, this is truly an ignorant response. Were it not for the Jews, there would be no Jesus and hence, no christianity. Jesus was a Jew.
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posted on
05/15/2005 4:19:46 PM PDT
by
NYer
("Love without truth is blind; Truth without love is empty." - Pope Benedict XVI)
To: Alouette
I think it's wonderful that Benedict XVI is paying his respects to our Jewish brothers and sisters by visiting a synagogue. :-)
To: Alouette; vigilo; Luddite Patent Counsel; SJackson; yonif; Happy2BMe; Simcha7; ...
"I agree. The dialogue the Pope should have with Jews should be this, "Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved." Outside of that, what fellowship does light have with the darkness? Judaism, rightly understood, and Christianity, rightly understood are PROFOUNDLY at odds, not just a little bit."
Geeeeez, why not just endorse a new Inquisition.
As a Christian, I PROFOUNDLY disagree.
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05/15/2005 4:32:36 PM PDT
by
Salem
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posted on
05/15/2005 4:43:57 PM PDT
by
backhoe
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To: Salem
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posted on
05/15/2005 4:45:09 PM PDT
by
Salem
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel
Please don't make the Catholics look bad in front of our Jewish friends.
Mary was a Jew and she is our mother.
The Jews are the chosen people and that Anti-semetic stuff went out with Vatican II.
Although I am a traditional, conservative Catholic who would love nothing more than to see more Latin and Greek in our Holy Masses, I feel that the appreciation of the Jewish people is the best thing to come out of Vatican II and continued with JPII.
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posted on
05/15/2005 4:46:49 PM PDT
by
netmilsmom
(Pope B16-Smacking down Heresy since 1981!-Benedict Gott Geschickt)
To: NYer
Fortunately most of us can differentiate between Pope Benedict XVI and an Internet poster.
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posted on
05/15/2005 4:46:54 PM PDT
by
SJackson
(The first duty of a leader is to make himself be loved without courting love, Andre Malraux)
To: Alouette
Not even underground churches?
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posted on
05/15/2005 4:58:46 PM PDT
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: Bella_Bru; SJackson
I'm profoundly embarassed by some of my "Christian" brethren. Please forgive their retarded comments. God's covenant with Israel is eternal and those who are faithful are assured of a special place in His kingdom.
To: Bella_Bru; Salem
St. Thomas Aquinas (II-II:11:1) defines heresy: "a species of infidelity in men who, having professed the faith of Christ, corrupt its dogmas". "The right Christian faith consists in giving one's voluntary assent to Christ in all that truly belongs to His teaching. There are,therefore,two ways of deviating from Christianity: the one by refusing to believe in Christ Himself, which is the way of infidelity, common to Pagans and Jews; the other by restricting belief to certain points of Christ's doctrine selected and fashioned at pleasure, which is the way of heretics."
So, according to the Angelic Doctor, I would have been more inclusively accurate to say "infidels, heretics, and pagans", just to cover all the bases. It certainly wasn't my intent to blur the distinction between the three. Sorry if I caused you any confusion. BTW, the "voluntary assent" thing would pretty much preclude another Inquisition, but nice try.
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posted on
05/15/2005 5:15:09 PM PDT
by
Luddite Patent Counsel
("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx)
To: vigilo
The dialogue the Pope should have with Jews should be this, "Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved." Gosh, I wonder why no one has ever suggested that before?
Thanks, but no thanks.
Outside of that, what fellowship does light have with the darkness?
A good suggestion. So when will you be leaving?
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posted on
05/15/2005 5:16:46 PM PDT
by
malakhi
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To: SJackson
I'm not sure what has you so upset. The Traditional Catholic teaching on salvation is based in part on the words of Christ, as related in the Gospel of John: "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No man cometh to the Father, but by me." I suppose you would think Him to be a "racist" and call him an obscene name as well.
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posted on
05/15/2005 5:37:43 PM PDT
by
Luddite Patent Counsel
("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx)
To: Luddite Patent Counsel
I'm amazed that the opinion of a heretic, infidel or a pagan is worth responding too.
Why, in the context of Pope Benedict XVI's visit to the Synagogue in Cologne, should a heretic, infidel, pagan like me accept your view as representative of anything, much less the Catholic Church?
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posted on
05/15/2005 5:41:14 PM PDT
by
SJackson
(The first duty of a leader is to make himself be loved without courting love, Andre Malraux)
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