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–The Rt. Rev. Jack M. McKelvey is Bishop of the Diocese of Rocheste
1 posted on 05/09/2005 6:27:29 AM PDT by newheart
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To: newheart

He's also, apparently, blind. The church is bleeding parishoners left and right, solely because a bunch of self-righteous, do-gooder liberals decided that they knew better than the word of God.


2 posted on 05/09/2005 6:30:12 AM PDT by The Right Stuff
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During Lent, I spent time thinking about the Samaritan woman at the well and her encounter with Jesus. She represents for me a person imprisoned by her culture, her gender, her history and her negative self-worth. I realized anew that Jesus gives a special attentiveness to those who are imprisoned. Why shouldn’t we?

Not to mention sin..but why quibble over a minor point as that? It's so retrograde...intolerant.

3 posted on 05/09/2005 6:37:53 AM PDT by Carolina
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We are living the words, “ALL ARE WELCOME.”

OK. So, what about the "now go and sin no more" part?

4 posted on 05/09/2005 6:45:14 AM PDT by polymuser
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5 posted on 05/09/2005 6:58:13 AM PDT by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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a person imprisoned by her culture, her gender,...

That's QueerSpeech. Living things don't have gender.

6 posted on 05/09/2005 7:01:46 AM PDT by Romulus (Der Inn fließt in den Tiber.)
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To: newheart
Sounds a lot like my own Bishop. (Moody in Oklahoma). He was doing visitation in my parish on Sunday and took the opportunity provided by this week's Gospel text John 17:11) to deliver a homily on 'unity'. According to him, when Jesus asked the Father on our behalf that we might be one he was referring to the kind of unity that the hierarchy of the ECUSA is trying so diligently to impose. It was clear that anyone who opposed the consecration of Gene Robinson is working against the unity of the church. He mentioned those who seek to leave the ECUSA as fomenting disunity in opposition to what he perceives as God's will.

Funny he didn't mention the situation in Connecticut as a shining example of unity.

Well, from my (admittedly lay and theologically unsophisticated) reading of the same verses I find myself asking what the whole text means. He didn't just ask that we be able to achieve some superficial unity. Instead he asked that our unity be based in the same thing as the unity between Him and the Father. The basis of unity between Jesus and the Father is certainly love, but not the 'feel-good', let's just all get along, false kind of love. Instead it is the love found in Jesus' submission to the Father's will. 'Nevertheless, not my will, but thine."

This unity was born in God's love for the world and forged in the pain and sacrifice of the Cross--a sacrifice that was necessary because of man's sin. To see it as anything less is a slander on the Gospel of Christ.

Bps McKelvey and Moody may in fact be 'proud to be an Episcopalian.' I am decreasingly so.
7 posted on 05/09/2005 7:23:39 AM PDT by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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–The Rt. Rev. Jack M. McKelvey is Bishop of the Diocese of Rocheste

Another ECUSABishop Bishpoop who is proud to say that Jesus died for nothing.

What a wonderful life when no one has to be penitent for anything. Unless, of course, you live by the word of God, then you are to be banned, defrocked, shunned, called evil for not tearing the offensive pages from your Bible that confront sinners.

8 posted on 05/09/2005 7:30:45 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Why isn't there a Disneyland in China? - Nobody's tall enough for the good rides.)
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To: newheart

So "all are welcome" means that sin is not sin and we should not "go and sin no more," as Jesus told the adulterous woman to do? One hears this type of simplistic and dishonest rhetoric -- the need to be inclusive and welcoming is promoted, and it is implicit that this requires the negation of all moral teaching of Christianity. It is hogwash. Charity sometimes means telling people to avoid sinful behavior as it is for their own spiritual good. Do we tell murderers and thiefs that they are welcome and can keep going on committing sinful behavior?


12 posted on 05/09/2005 8:18:06 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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