A CRUCIAL WORD FOR CALIFORNIA [Get it together believers or it's ZOT TIME]

On the issue of California, when I was at the National Religious Broadcasters convention this February, we stayed in Anaheim and I ministered in L.A. For days I was vexed in my spirit. I kept thinking of Lot and how the Bible said his righteous heart was daily vexed because of living in the midst of unprincipled men.

Everywhere I looked, I saw gross immorality, lust, and greed. I was filled with remorse and even felt sick to my stomach.

One night, I woke up in the middle of the night and I felt that judgment was about to come to southern California.

I had thoughts like, "If God doesn't settle the issues here, He will need to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah." I received a word from the Lord regarding some coming judgments on the land -- devastations.

I began to think about the judgments of God and how they are so loving and full of mercy.

If He shows kindness, blessing, and goodness to His people or a region and there is no turning from wicked ways, then He must judge (in order to keep us safe). David said, before I was afflicted, I went astray. If judgment does not come, then we are left to exponential levels of evil -- the little leaven, leavens the lump.

The State has promoted immorality, perversion, lust, idol worship, and greed. The masses are being poisoned through what has been inspired and birthed in Hollywood and exported to the nations of the world.

I saw weight scales. California was being weighed in the balance and was found wanting. More prayer is needed . . . but not just ordinary prayer . . . the kind of prayer found in II Chronicles 7:14:

"If My people, who are called by My name will humble themselves and pray, and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sins and will heal their land."

There is a great potential for California to lead in a moral revival, but this needs to be birthed. Many are saying, "As California goes, so goes the nation." At this point, my prayer would be, "Lord, let not this be at this time." I would not want to see the USA go as California goes.

There is a remnant -- only the Lord knows, of course, just how large this "remnant is" -- of His faithful followers in the state of California -- those who have not bowed their knee to Baal, those who have not compromised or sold out on moral values and godly principles, those who have stood in the gap faithfully. These ones are standing on the wall and will not keep silent until righteousness is established. God is wanting more faithful believers to stand for His purposes and to birth revival. He is wanting His church to rise with one voice to rightly represent His heart.

"O California, you who I created to manifest the glory of My Son, have I not blessed and endowed you with great resource and wealth? Have I not filled you with gold and oil and wine? Have I not been good to you? Have I not given you a godly spiritual heritage? Look to the days gone by and see the foundations that were laid by Seymour, Semple McPherson and others.

"Why then have you turned from Me and followed your own ways -- ways of perversion, lust, and greed? Why have you become a voice for evil devices and desires? Why are you contending for perverted ways? Why have you embraced influences from the East, birthing and glorifying moves of demonic worship?

"Why have you brought the mixtures of these things into My church? Why, in your pride, are you standing as one who thinks your ways have been found pleasant in My sight? Why do you think you will stand forever as one who will continue to set ungodly trends? Why do you say all is well when all is not well with you? Why do you say there is peace when there is no peace?

"Turn from your wicked ways, California. I have sent watchmen on your walls who cry out to Me day and night. I have a people who have not bowed their knees to Baal, who have embraced My righteous ways. I have raised up a people who are standing in the gap for you . . . a people of true passion for true holiness. These are My righteous ones in the land.

"You, California, are being weighed in the balance and are found wanting at this time. I am going to give you a little more time to repent. I will strengthen those who are standing on the wall; I will send you warnings from many prophets and in diverse ways. I will give you signs of My love and faithfulness. I will also give you signs of my impending judgment. Take heed to these things. If you do not repent as a result of My kindness, then repent as a result of My warnings.

"If you do not repent, I must bring judgment in order to save you and in order to save the land and the nations. Your sins have influenced the masses and have destroyed families, marriages, and lives. You have promoted wickedness and resisted righteousness. My judgments will be an act of kindness, you will understand this.

"A choice is before you -- blessing or curse. A great moral revival is knocking at your door. Will you open that door? A door of judgment also awaits you. If you will turn, then judgment will not come -- it will not need to.

"The time is critical. Choose this day whom you will serve, California. Weep and wail in My presence. Cleanse your hands and purify your hearts. Return to Me and see if I will not pour out a blessing upon you -- a blessing that will influence the nations -- a greater blessing than any other you have experienced in all your history.

"I have sent those who have prophesied your potential. Rise up to it. Rise up to it."

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Come Up Higher
Elvi Glass

I am calling you to come higher on my mountain. Run to me and cast aside everything that hinders you. It is coming! The great outpouring you have heard and read about is about to be released. It is coming wave after wave, one after another. It is on it's way. Even now I am giving the command for release of finances, gifts and anointings. The call is going forth. Do you hear it? Are you willing to come up higher on my mountain? Are you willing to pay the price and go all the way with Me?

There is a commotion in heaven. Thousands of angels are ready and waiting in anticipation to be released. There is great anticipation. I am sealing my bondservants, those who have allowed my fire to purify them. Those who have kept their focus on Me even when it was difficult. It is those who have died to self and to the world and they are now ready to come into the fullness of my calling.

Will I find you busy with worldly things or will I find you going about my Father's business?

Dance and rejoice. Dance for the time is near. My bride betrothed to me. The bride adorned with precious jewels. Come!

Elvi Glass
prophetic-school@godspeak.org

http://www.etpv.org/2005/cuhi.html

That is circular reasoning on your part. You have decided what it is with out support for your view. Their are 3 other things that more perfectly meet the qualifications of 'the perfect'.

One Argument is that it is love. When you have perfect love coming out of your being towards others the miraculous will be completely overshadowed. It also fits with the chapter context.

Another is the return of Christ. He is complete (perfect) and when he returns these gifts will cease.

I forgot the other. However, non of the ones that fit the picture include the 'cannon' of completed scripture.

That it is the word of God is complete conjecture. You have built your theology on an assumption.

Lastly, you must answer the question, 'if God were to ask you to speak in tongues, would you?'.

We have skipped over an important point in this discussion. What was the purpose of the miraculous gifts that were given to the Apostles in the 1st Century? If we can define this first, we can have a better understanding of what 1 Corinthians 13:10 actually means. Do you agree?

No I don't agree, due to the fact that we have multiple other referances to tongues in different forms than known languages in scripture. Please read 1 cor 12-14, you will find that limiting this to a known language makes no sense with the instructions given. Their are many people today that are denying the gift of tongues from the filling of the Holy Spirit. There are even some that blaspheme the Holy Spirit by saying that his works are that of Satan.

Here is a question for you?
In Acts one, were their any interpreters present? If you look at the text, you will see, they spoke in an unknown tongue, but the people heard them in thier own lanquage. Could they have been speaking in a non world language, with God interpreting in the mind of those that heard?

The ones that preach the end of gifts have weak arguments and display no faith or guidence from the teaching our Holy Spirit.

And to be perfectly honest, I have not received this gift either. But rulling it out due to tradition and man's teaching leaves you with nothing better than the Catholics.

The purpose of miraculous gifts was to reveal the will of God (Mark 16:20, Hebrews 2:3-4). Is there any need to reveal the will of God today? No, since it has been revealed in His Word, the Bible.

It is not in Acts 1, it is Acts 2, where they began speaking in tongues. And they are not unknown tongues, but other tongues. There is no evidence that they were in a "non-world" language as you suggest.

Yes I agree that it is speculation as to what the tongue was; you cannot definitively state they were known tongues. Yes the signs are to make the will of God known. Do you know the will of God for your life specifically? Have you never asked God for specific directions? My bible state that the believers will lay hands on the sick and they will be healed; the believers will cast out demons, the believers will speak in new tongues. That was not given to the apostles, read it. Mark 11:24. This debate still does not answer the question. When God asks you to speak in tongues, will you? You still have not answered that question. You have forgotten, that I have taught these very things you have perported. In my pride I was right. God answered my pray to humble me. It is a matter of submission not hermeneutics.

Let me lastly give you this.
I seek for you an abundant life of miraculous interaction with the God of creation and His Son our savior. A place of Perfect Peace (Ps 91) which transcends what you have decided to believe. We all must be ready to pass up the sower in our reaping souls for his kingdom. We cannot do that if we have decided to limit God to man's tradition. John 15:5.

The Bible is the final revelation of God. God no longer speaks to individual Christians the way He did in the 1st Century. Praying that God will help you to know what is best in your life is not asking for revelation, it is asking for guidance. There is a huge difference.

The only ones that could lay hands on people and heal or pass on their gifts was the Apostles. Even those who had received gifts from the Apostles could not pass them on to others. Therefore, once the Apostles and those who had been given those gifts passed away, that ability was gone.

I feel I am not reading the same bible you are.
You have not read Mark 11:16-19 recently. It does not say apostles. You are still working from your understanding of scripture that you have been taught. What does John 10:20-24 mean to you? God speaking through tongues or other wise to a believer or a body of believers does not have any thing to do with changing the complete inerrant word of the New or Old Testament. I know people how have miraculously been healed, with medical, and x ray proof because of the laying on of hands. You need to deal with your pride. You have not figured it all out. Just like I have not, but I thought I had.

Ending the miraculous gifts with the apostles means you are redacting the list of gifts in Romans and in I Corinthians. Why would some of that list of gifts be deleted from the church and not others? When you say that prophesy, tongues, healing, working or miracles are no longer valid you must also say that pastor, teacher, administration is also. They are in the same list. How do you explain that Paul tells common Christians to seek the greater gifts, if they were to end? Is the book written to us? Or just to the first century church, personally touched by the apostles? You can’t have it both ways. If you want to start saying one thing is for us and one thing is not for us, where do you stop?

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