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A CRUCIAL WORD FOR CALIFORNIA [Get it together believers or it's ZOT TIME]
BILL SOMERS' "WHAT'S NEW at END TIMES PROPHETIC VISION" http://www.etpv.org/whatsnew.html ^ | 8 MAY 2005 | PATRICIA KING

Posted on 05/08/2005 7:36:43 PM PDT by Quix

A Crucial Word for California

Patricia King

On the issue of California, when I was at the National Religious Broadcasters convention this February, we stayed in Anaheim and I ministered in L.A. For days I was vexed in my spirit. I kept thinking of Lot and how the Bible said his righteous heart was daily vexed because of living in the midst of unprincipled men.

Everywhere I looked, I saw gross immorality, lust, and greed. I was filled with remorse and even felt sick to my stomach.

One night, I woke up in the middle of the night and I felt that judgment was about to come to southern California.

I had thoughts like, "If God doesn't settle the issues here, He will need to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah." I received a word from the Lord regarding some coming judgments on the land -- devastations.

I began to think about the judgments of God and how they are so loving and full of mercy.

If He shows kindness, blessing, and goodness to His people or a region and there is no turning from wicked ways, then He must judge (in order to keep us safe). David said, before I was afflicted, I went astray. If judgment does not come, then we are left to exponential levels of evil -- the little leaven, leavens the lump.

The State has promoted immorality, perversion, lust, idol worship, and greed. The masses are being poisoned through what has been inspired and birthed in Hollywood and exported to the nations of the world.

I saw weight scales. California was being weighed in the balance and was found wanting. More prayer is needed . . . but not just ordinary prayer . . . the kind of prayer found in II Chronicles 7:14:

"If My people, who are called by My name will humble themselves and pray, and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sins and will heal their land."

There is a great potential for California to lead in a moral revival, but this needs to be birthed. Many are saying, "As California goes, so goes the nation." At this point, my prayer would be, "Lord, let not this be at this time." I would not want to see the USA go as California goes.

There is a remnant -- only the Lord knows, of course, just how large this "remnant is" -- of His faithful followers in the state of California -- those who have not bowed their knee to Baal, those who have not compromised or sold out on moral values and godly principles, those who have stood in the gap faithfully. These ones are standing on the wall and will not keep silent until righteousness is established. God is wanting more faithful believers to stand for His purposes and to birth revival. He is wanting His church to rise with one voice to rightly represent His heart.

A Prophetic Word For California

"O California, you who I created to manifest the glory of My Son, have I not blessed and endowed you with great resource and wealth? Have I not filled you with gold and oil and wine? Have I not been good to you? Have I not given you a godly spiritual heritage? Look to the days gone by and see the foundations that were laid by Seymour, Semple McPherson and others.

"Why then have you turned from Me and followed your own ways -- ways of perversion, lust, and greed? Why have you become a voice for evil devices and desires? Why are you contending for perverted ways? Why have you embraced influences from the East, birthing and glorifying moves of demonic worship?

"Why have you brought the mixtures of these things into My church? Why, in your pride, are you standing as one who thinks your ways have been found pleasant in My sight? Why do you think you will stand forever as one who will continue to set ungodly trends? Why do you say all is well when all is not well with you? Why do you say there is peace when there is no peace?

"Turn from your wicked ways, California. I have sent watchmen on your walls who cry out to Me day and night. I have a people who have not bowed their knees to Baal, who have embraced My righteous ways. I have raised up a people who are standing in the gap for you . . . a people of true passion for true holiness. These are My righteous ones in the land.

"You, California, are being weighed in the balance and are found wanting at this time. I am going to give you a little more time to repent. I will strengthen those who are standing on the wall; I will send you warnings from many prophets and in diverse ways. I will give you signs of My love and faithfulness. I will also give you signs of my impending judgment. Take heed to these things. If you do not repent as a result of My kindness, then repent as a result of My warnings.

"If you do not repent, I must bring judgment in order to save you and in order to save the land and the nations. Your sins have influenced the masses and have destroyed families, marriages, and lives. You have promoted wickedness and resisted righteousness. My judgments will be an act of kindness, you will understand this.

"A choice is before you -- blessing or curse. A great moral revival is knocking at your door. Will you open that door? A door of judgment also awaits you. If you will turn, then judgment will not come -- it will not need to.

"The time is critical. Choose this day whom you will serve, California. Weep and wail in My presence. Cleanse your hands and purify your hearts. Return to Me and see if I will not pour out a blessing upon you -- a blessing that will influence the nations -- a greater blessing than any other you have experienced in all your history.

"I have sent those who have prophesied your potential. Rise up to it. Rise up to it."

"If My people, who are called by My name will humble themselves and pray, and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sins and will heal their land (II Chronicles 7:14)."

Patricia King

Extreme Prophetic

www.extremeprophetic.com

patricia@extremeprophetic.com


TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Current Events; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Prayer; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Theology; Worship
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To: BenLurkin

Not at all.

ST Paul IN THE MANUAL FOR CHRISTIAN LIFE

says he would that all prophecy.

It's a lie from the pit of hell that it ended.

However, it's not in the best shape and form yet. I believe God is about the business of cleaning His prophets and the modern prophetic movement up. I don't know when He aims to finish. But I don't think He wants it to be the mess it currently is when the end times events really get going hot and heavy.


21 posted on 05/08/2005 9:21:21 PM PDT by Quix (LOVE NEVER FAILS.)
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To: ConservativeMind; BenLurkin


I find that when I compare what you said with Scripture and with my observations and experience, your statement is thoroughly wrong and UNBiblical.

You also ought to know that the common understanding of prophecy as future telling is

CERTAINLY ONE

of the VERY VALID AND VERY BIBLICAL MEANINGS OF THE TERM. To deny that is to deny basic scholarship and basic dictionary meanings which have been true from the original languages to our time.

It is a deceptive cop-out, rationalization, plain untruth etc to assert that the only meaning of prophecy, to prophecy or to be aprophet is FORTH TELLING of The Gospel.


22 posted on 05/08/2005 9:25:20 PM PDT by Quix (LOVE NEVER FAILS.)
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To: Quix

Prove it, sucker.


23 posted on 05/08/2005 11:13:48 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: Blurblogger

Thank you!


24 posted on 05/08/2005 11:26:45 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: BenLurkin

Nope!!


25 posted on 05/08/2005 11:29:38 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: ConservativeMind

Watch your language - you don't need to insult people by saying "sucker" - it's just not necessary. It's fine if you don't agree - but the name calling is juvenile!


26 posted on 05/08/2005 11:31:51 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: ConservativeMind

Fascinating.

I have no compelling desire to even try to prove anything to such an attitude.

The evidence is readily available. Those who truly seek the truth will seek it out.


27 posted on 05/09/2005 7:45:51 AM PDT by Quix (LOVE NEVER FAILS.)
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To: BenLurkin

Yes, prophecy and other miraclous gifts came to an end after the death of the Apostles and of the ones they had personally laid hands on. There is no need for such things today, since we have "that which is perfect"(1 Corinthians 13:10), which is the complete Word of God.


28 posted on 05/09/2005 8:05:26 AM PDT by jkl1122
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To: Quix
I've lived through the "so-called" prophetic gifts given those who have informed Jack Van Impe and Pat Robertson, among others.

Pat said he was told by God that Y2K was to usher in the Apocalypse, while Jack's maintained several such dates until he's been proven otherwise.

Don't get me started on the Catholic prediction that the end of the world will be here during the lifetime of the Pope who follows this one.

Prophesy must speak of that which supports Scripture. A year with three zeros was never a Scriptural thing, nor are these perverted Bible Code attempts to second-guess God.

I said in my prior letter:

To be fair, "prophesy" also means standing up for God when no one else does.

This is what we have today that will stand regardless of what some wacked-out charlatan may say.

I encourage you, as a fellow Christian, to abide by His word.
29 posted on 05/09/2005 11:44:34 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: ConservativeMind

I do abide by His Word to the near best of my ability--including Acts 2; I Cor 12-14.

When will you apply those parts of The Manual routinely in your life?

Do you also judge your life by the same standard you judge others?


30 posted on 05/09/2005 6:19:37 PM PDT by Quix (LOVE NEVER FAILS.)
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To: ConservativeMind

He makes fine sense to those of us who believe in end times and the prophetic.


31 posted on 05/11/2005 6:08:49 AM PDT by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: Marysecretary

And to those who know that the Bible teaches that prophecies and signs have already ceased, his posts show a lack of understanding of Scripture.


32 posted on 05/11/2005 6:18:55 AM PDT by jkl1122
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To: BenLurkin

NO. It hasn't ended.


33 posted on 05/11/2005 6:33:31 AM PDT by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: ConservativeMind

WHAT is your problem? If you don't like this thread, get the he!! off. You're always trying to hijack anything Quix does. YOU are the one who's a sucker, not him.


34 posted on 05/11/2005 6:35:28 AM PDT by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: jkl1122

These things have NOT ceased. I think your teachings show a lack of understanding of Scripture. You need to hear what God is saying to people TODAY as well as yesterday.


35 posted on 05/11/2005 6:37:48 AM PDT by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: Marysecretary
1 Corinthians 13:10
"But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away."

What was the point of the spiritual gifts such as prophecy and miracles? It was to reveal the will of God to the world. In 1 Corinthians 13, Paul talks of these things(prophecies,tongues,knowledge) as being in part, not the whole. He says in verse 10 that "when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away". The Greek word used for perfect is "teleios". This word denotes the idea of completeness. This is pointing to the complete revelation of God's Will, which is His Word. We now currently have the complete Word of God, so there is no need for these miraculous gifts.
36 posted on 05/11/2005 6:55:10 AM PDT by jkl1122
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To: Marysecretary
When someone chooses to post, they open themselves up for criticism.

I choose to not stay silent when I notice something wrong. That is why I post.

Now, if you think I am approaching on hijacking Quix's threads, I am truly honored. But in the end, only Truth within my words can do so.
37 posted on 05/11/2005 7:41:18 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: jkl1122

The perfect is JESUS, not His Word. I know that's probably contrary to what you've been taught but that's just how it is. There's a definite difference in the way we've all been taught about that. Jesus was the ONLY perfect one.


38 posted on 05/11/2005 8:14:18 AM PDT by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: jkl1122

They have NOT ceased. Sorry, but your interpretation is just plain wrong.


39 posted on 05/11/2005 8:19:53 AM PDT by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: Marysecretary

Since "that which is perfect" is in contrast to "that which is in part", then according to your interpretation of the passage, Christ must have been incomplete or partial, and still is, before His second coming. This, however, makes no sense.


40 posted on 05/11/2005 8:28:19 AM PDT by jkl1122
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