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New Age Invasion - Is This Spirituality Replacing Catholic Faith?
San Diego News Notes ^ | May 2005 | Robert Kumpel

Posted on 05/08/2005 3:56:34 PM PDT by NYer

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To: A CA Guy

"That's a young girl dancing at a youth conference."

Know what? I don't believe that.

There are four people processing behind her in what passes today for altar-thing gowns, one of them carrying what appears to be a modern-art, non-representational cross and others with candles. It's clearly a procession of some sort, and it is taking place in the vicinity of what appears to be a Novus Ordo altar-table.

Looks to me like they're starting Mass.


101 posted on 05/08/2005 10:34:19 PM PDT by dsc
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To: A CA Guy
If they use a hand woven basket with a special linen to contain the hosts, I have no problem with that.

Ah, but the Church does.

102 posted on 05/08/2005 10:35:02 PM PDT by murphE (The crown of victory is promised only to those who engage in the struggle. St. Augustine)
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To: Aliska

This was an event with over 35,000 people, mostly kids.


103 posted on 05/08/2005 10:36:43 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

"It's a world conference and a beautiful linen over a well hand made basket might be like wealth in some of the Catholic Church's in third world nations."

It doesn't matter how "beautiful" a basket may be; the Church is quite clear on the requirements.


104 posted on 05/08/2005 10:37:02 PM PDT by dsc
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To: A CA Guy

"This was an event with over 35,000 people, mostly kids."

1. What is the point of something like that? Why do it?
2. Who says they all have to take communion at the same time?

I say knock that materialistic silliness off altogether.


105 posted on 05/08/2005 10:38:50 PM PDT by dsc
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To: Salvation
Oh greeaaat, "Religious Educators". Educating the next generation of cafeteria Catholics. God help us.
106 posted on 05/08/2005 10:40:24 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: dsc

It's for tens of thousands of people.


107 posted on 05/08/2005 10:40:48 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: dsc

ROTFLMAO!!! I just about choked on what I was drinking when I read that.


108 posted on 05/08/2005 10:41:37 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: murphE

It's a world education conference. 35,000 people had to be accomodated and I'm sure what they did was OK with the Vatican.

I bet JJP2 did the same many times on his trips being he was at events where he had to give communion to tens of thousands as well.


109 posted on 05/08/2005 10:43:10 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

Make that JP2


110 posted on 05/08/2005 10:43:37 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: murphE
Did you happen to notice the large wicker basket? That's supposed to be the ciborium.

Guess I missed that. It kind of blended into the scenery. Well, didn't Jesus use those for the loaves and fishes miracle?

I'm being sarcastic. Rules again. Baskets then, ciboriums now.

I'm getting random disconnects so may not be able to stay with this discussion for a bit. Will see if this will fly.

111 posted on 05/08/2005 10:44:18 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: dsc

And there's no way that she is "a young girl". Take a closer look.


112 posted on 05/08/2005 10:44:33 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: dsc

Go to the site. It was a gathering of the worlds children from all parts of the globe under one roof for educational purposes.

I believe the lesson plans were also given there, so the idea would be that all the world got the same consistent education throughout the world.

More than likely people were sponsored to attend.


113 posted on 05/08/2005 10:46:33 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
This was an event with over 35,000 people, mostly kids.

I suppose it's more pragmatic to entertain them. Give them a good show.

114 posted on 05/08/2005 10:52:11 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Aliska

Go to the site which I linked earlier.

The dancing was an exhibition of different Catholic culturs from around the world.

It was more about education than dancing.

Check out the site.


115 posted on 05/08/2005 11:21:53 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: GipperGal

"And there's no way that she is "a young girl". Take a closer look."

Well, at my age the concept of "young" is fairly elastic.


116 posted on 05/08/2005 11:22:29 PM PDT by dsc
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To: A CA Guy

"The dancing was an exhibition of different Catholic culturs from around the world."

That "different Catholic cultures" are thought to exist is a serious problem.


117 posted on 05/08/2005 11:23:23 PM PDT by dsc
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To: murphE

"If Mahoney wants to be humble let him give up his dancing girls and obey the rubrics of the mass, including what is prescribed for sacred vessels."

How come that wasn't the end of this thread?


118 posted on 05/08/2005 11:26:37 PM PDT by dsc
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To: murphE
Here's a choice selection of heresies from the Manresa Jesuit Spiritual Renewal Centre in Ontario. And what is conspicuous by it absence? *Any* mention of our Lord. The jesuits are a thoroughly deviled organization.

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119 posted on 05/09/2005 12:56:30 AM PDT by Antioch (Benedict XVI: "I think the essential point is a weakness of faith.")
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To: Antioch; sandyeggo; Frank Sheed
Two beautiful churches here in Toronto, the right Baptist, the left Presbyterian-both slated for deconsecration, demolition

As a consolation, here's a happier ending for a similar church boarded up 40 years ago. Our Maronite Catholic pastor was looking for a new church for his growing congregation. Despite the fact that the local RC diocese had closed several local area churches, none of these was made available for purchase.

The Maronite Catholic pastor found a 150 year old Methodist/Episcopal (when they were still joined) Church. The owners had been offered good money over the years by commercial developers seeking to tear down the church and replace it with a business. They refused to budge.

When the pastor contacted them, they happily sold him the property which includes a small residence, for a fraction of its value. Their primary concern was to ensure the church remained a place of worship, regardless of denomination.

The interior remained untouched since its construction. It includes a wood buttressed ceiling and several magnificent stained glass windows. It needed serious repairs, though. Recently, after filing appropriate paperwork, both buildings were accorded Landmark status thus entitling them to matching state grants for restoration work.

It's a costly process to restore the buildings and make the necessary adjustments to convert it from a protestant to catholic worship space but the project is moving ahead. Our parish will celebrate its centennial this year. While the new church will not be completed in time, with God's grace (and some hefty donations), the aspirations of a protestant group to save its church and those of a Catholic priest for a new church, will soon come to fruition when the bishop comes to dedicate the church.

Ironically, since acquiring this property, the RC diocese closed 5 area churches! Those congregations will benefit from our presence once this project is completed.

120 posted on 05/09/2005 3:11:14 AM PDT by NYer ("Love without truth is blind; Truth without love is empty." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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