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To: Kolokotronis

What I mean is, when God touches the soul it becomes an experience only those two can share. No one, no matter how well meaning, can understand the experience unless they have been there. Even then, there is only a limited amount an elder can do beyond spiritual direction. The journey can be very lonely even within a group. I think that is part of the process. God wants us to rely solely on Him instead of human resources.


73 posted on 04/17/2005 9:07:31 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; bornacatholic; AlbionGirl; pharmamom; Agrarian; kosta50

"The journey can be very lonely even within a group. I think that is part of the process. God wants us to rely solely on Him instead of human resources."

Your comment puts me in mind of a couple of things. First, in Orthodoxy we speak of the communion of saints. When we pray at the Divine Liturgy we are conscious, even physically conscious of the presence of the saints there with us singing our hymn of praise and thanksgiving. This consciousness is quite real and therefore when we chant before the "Sanctus" that we are joing in the Victory Hymn of the angels, six winged and many eyed we quite literally mean it. That is the community of Orthodoxy. Finally, I remember a number of years ago attending a Vespers at the nuns' monastery outside the village in Greece. My oldest son and I were there with an uncle who had some legal business with the abbess. It was getting close to 6:00 when a cousin of mine, a nun, came into the Arxondariki (a room where vistitors are received and entertained)and asked if my son and I would like to attend Vespers with the nuns. We did. In a catholikon about 1000 years old, lit only by candles, my the 13 year old son and I chanted with the nuns. The icons painted on the walls, faded with the years and candle smoke were ghost like yet powerful at the same time. The nuns stood on one side of the catholikon, my boy, a workman and I on the other. At one of the high points of the chanting, my son whispered to me "Dad, this must be what heaven is like!"
A monastic community is a spiritually powerful place to be, Deborah.


83 posted on 04/18/2005 6:53:03 AM PDT by Kolokotronis ("Set a guard over my mouth, O Lord; keep watch over the door of my lips!" (Psalm 141:3))
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
The journey can be very lonely even within a group.

I think that's true. I think that replacing self love with the total love of Christ is very lonely. How could it not be? At the end of the periods of lonliness though, Spiritual growth results. You are able to forgive a little easier, to gladly do what you might have dreaded doing before.

M.(?) Scott Peck wrote that he believes the more people really live in accordance with God, the less likely they are to have a lot of friends. I think there is truth to that.

96 posted on 04/19/2005 6:29:06 AM PDT by AlbionGirl ("I know my Sheep, and my Sheep Know Me.")
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