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Is it time to ordain married men to the Catholic priesthood?
Vivificat! - A Catholic Blog of Commentary and Opinion ^ | 7 April 2005 | Teófilo

Posted on 04/07/2005 5:00:46 AM PDT by Teófilo

This Observant Catholic says: maybe

Much of the support to the idea of married Catholic priests comes from liberal reformers, who often couch it in their language, that is to say, in concepts foreign to Catholic theology, and also link it to another issue, "women's ordination" so-called. Put the two ideas into the same sentence and you see how both ideas sound so repulsive to Observant Catholics' ears.

Pope John Paul II as a young priest-who says that celibate priests can't related to the rest of us?This doesn't need to be this way. They idea of ordaining married men to the priesthood can be defended on orthodox, conservative, and traditional grounds. My thesis is that a married priesthood would not be a doctrinal innovation, but simply the restoration of a discipline that was normative for the first 1,000 years of history in the Western, Latin Church—although we need to acknowledge that the discipline of priestly celibacy became ascendant in the 5th century, from the time of Pope St. Gregory the Great, who brought a monastic outlook to the papacy of his time, onwards. Five centuries later, another saintly Pope named Gregory (pp.VII), promulgated that celibacy was to be the mandatory disciplinary norm for all the priests of the Latin Church.

Before we attempt an analysis of the arguments set in favor of a married clergy, we need to set forth the following two principles:

The Holy Spirit guides Salvation History. He's also the soul of the Church, the life-giving, animating principle of the Body of Christ. Nothing happens in the history of the Church without a purpose, nor outside of God's will. If the Spirit guided the Western Church to establish a discipline of celibacy for all priestly tiers in the Western Church, and that discipline has lasted 1,400 years, well, we should hold to that fact as the point of departure for any conversation on this issue, and assign it all the weight it rightly deserves.

The second principle flows from what we mean when we say "ordaining married men to the Catholic priesthood." It means just that. The priesthood under this discipline will continue to be restricted to men,in conformity with 2,000 years of Catholic Tradition and, most recently, the binding authoritative teaching of Pope John Paul the Great, given in his 1994 Apostolic Letter, Ordinatio Sacerdotalis:

Wherefore, in order that all doubt may be removed regarding a matter of great importance, a matter which pertains to the Church's divine constitution itself, in virtue of my ministry of confirming the brethren (cf. Lk 22:32) I declare that the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women and that this judgment is to be definitively held by all the Church's faithful.

It also means ordaining married men; it doesn't mean that already ordained men would be allowed to marry and still permitted to minister. Already ordained priests seeking marriage would still have to be dispensed from their vows and laicized.

Many of the so-called reformers would find such strictures intolerable, for they do not fit with the pastoral model they have in mind for the Church and that's the Protestant Parsonage. Most observant Catholics opposed to the idea of ordaining married men to the priesthood also believe that this is the only model available to follow and therefore, they reject it—and rightly so. I also reject the Protestant Parsonage as a model for the Catholic one, and I say that with all due respect to all those successful Protestant ministerial couples out there who have made it work, often under dire circumstances in the mission field or while undergoing persecution for the cause of Christ.

I set aside the Protestant model because is not Catholic and I'm only willing to admit Catholic solutions to Catholic problems—in this case, the scarcity of priests in developed countries for which ordaining worthy married men is but one solution. As a Catholic theologian, I must look to the fullness of revelation as handed down solely to the Catholic Church since her beginning, for trustworthy guidance on this very important issue.

Catholic Tradition has preserved such a model of married priests and families, and it is the one we can observe today in the Eastern Churches, both the ones in communion with Rome and the ones that are not. They offer us a perfect model that is both historical, practical, steeped in Holy Tradition and therefore, thoroughly Catholic. The Eastern model is the one the Western Church should adopt if and when the Magisterium decides to restore the discipline of a married clergy to the Latin Church.

I have observed first hand that a married priest can minister to his flock and remain completely open to its needs, in all the demands that the Lord imposes upon him, be it the needs of the flock or the needs of its own family; I have seen holiness and wholesomeness flowing in these priestly families and it is inspiring to behold.

Now, do these couples "have it easy"? Most certainly not. These couples live under a social microscope and the need to send boundaries between service and love to others and service and love to their family lay unimaginable pressures on these servants of God. The fact that they achieve it and persevere every day, as well as their persistence in liturgical and private prayer, fasting, and mortification, demonstrates beyond all doubt God's blessings upon these unions. That this occurs within a traditional Catholic context is encouraging. The fact that in these marriages man, in his fullness—male and female—becomes a partner with Christ in the redemption of the world should not scandalize anyone among the Catholic faithful, but rather inspire them to pursue their salvation with due diligence.

Ordaining married men is not a messianic panacea that will heal all the ills of the Church in developed countries, for the vocation deficit ailing the Church today has but little to do with the life of chosen celibacy the priesthood now demands, and everything to do with the kind of culture we live in. Permanent Deacons—the ranks of men from which the first batch of married priests is likely to come—should feel any pressure to abandon their initial vocation; being a Permanent Deacon is a perfectly fine vocation and blessed by the Lord.

Enthusiasts of ordaining married men to the priesthood should stand under the cold shower of reality and the reality we live here in the United States is that our materialistic culture is not conducive to Catholic religious vocations of any kind, whether married or celibate. I'm not too optimistic that hordes of married men will rush to become priests if the discipline of married priesthood is ever restored in the Western Church.

If a married priesthood following the Eastern Christian model is to be restored in the Latin Church, pastors (i.e. bishops) should exercise extreme caution as to whom they choose for this restored ministry. For we will no longer be talking about one vocation, but two, the husband's and the wife's and maybe even the children's. I humbly suggest the following guidelines to its restoration and for the testing of the worthiest candidates:

Then, there's the matter of need. Is the need to ordain married men real? It is true that ordaining men will provide limited relief to the wide and variegated spiritual needs of the Catholic faithful, and the problem of vocations lies in the modern materialist culture. Yet, the need for priests is now critical throughout the developed world and we can't wait to fix the problem with the culture. Ordaining worthy married men might one way to go. In fact, they may be a catalyst for even more vocations, both to the married and celibate priesthood.

Is now the time to admit married men into the priesthood? This is a matter of spiritual discernment, of being alert to the promptings of the Spirit and judging that whatever is enacted is the will of the Spirit. That's not my role. My role is to point out a need and a possible solution in accordance to the Deposit of Revelation—Scripture and Tradition.

In the 500 years between Pope St. Gregory I and St. Gregory VII, the Magisterium decided that a celibate priesthood better served the Church; Pope John Paul the Great judged that it wasn't time yet to restore the ancient discipline of the Church. The next Holy Father may decide that it is time to restore the ancient discipline, or he may not, and that's fine too. We should all be happy and at peace and always remember that our agenda, our schedule, is not the Spirit's. The Catholic Church will go where the Spirit blows, when the Spirit blows, and at no other time and often, in spite of ourselves.

- Read "Can a priest be a husband?" from Time Magazine

- Read Split in push for married priests, from Australia's Fairfax Digital

- Read What's the deal about legally married priests? at EWTN.

The following links are from the Married Priest Website. Vivificat! doesn't necessarily support everything they say, and may in fact oppose some of the things they say. In other words, this is not a blanket endorsement of that site's content. I link to it because they have the documents I want my readers to study. Caveat emptor.

- Read the Document Outlining the Pastoral Provision issued by the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith on July 22, 1980 Prot. N. 66/77

- Read the English Catholic Bishops' Statutes for the Admission of Married Former Anglican Clergymen into the Catholic Church

- Read the Provisions of the Code of Canons of the Eastern Churches Related to Married Clergy from the Code of Canon Law for Oriental Churches.


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Orthodox Christian; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: celibacy; marriage; priesthood
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To: chgomac
The habitual use of Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion (the term "Eucharistic Minister" is reserved for the priest) is, in itself, a liturgical abuse.

However, it does seem that when they are truly needed, women may serve in this role legitimately.

61 posted on 04/07/2005 7:38:39 AM PDT by B Knotts (Ioannes Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem.)
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To: Dominick
Maybe... I don't know. I'd hate to assume that and I need more evidence to believe that.

I think a lot of it is that tons of priests would be outraged if the FSSP or another 'JPII' priestly order were allowed into Boston. So for all the talk of 'denying the faithful the Eucharist' it seems that not all possible remedies are 'open for discussion' - in fact, there's only one 'remedy' that seems to be 'open for discussion'. It's pretty hypocritical.

62 posted on 04/07/2005 7:43:51 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: murphE

I guess everyone's different but having lived through what I now know was 'grooming' for months, I knew enough to know what was right and what was wrong and what I didn't want to do. The guy was a rich lawyer and respected in the community where I grew up plus this was in 1974, so I never told anyone except my mother who blew it off because I think she was intimidated.


64 posted on 04/07/2005 7:47:21 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: american colleen

The competition from an Order, versus closing a parish, the money is on closing, because that would be cash in real estate strapped Boston, IMHO, but I am about a thousand miles from there.


66 posted on 04/07/2005 7:48:30 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: B Knotts

Sitting here stunned! Are you saying that women should be allowed to distribute Communion only if extraordinary circumstances were present? My friend said that in other countries, no women serve....the whole thing came up because her church in Chicago needs people to take Holy Communion to the sick and housebound but only men are chosen-here in the NW women do this all the time.

We're not really "one" anymore, are we? "Holy", I pray so, "catholic"-maybe not-"universal"?


67 posted on 04/07/2005 7:50:19 AM PDT by chgomac
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To: sinkspur

"I'd bet that JPII was not in favor of the Anglican dispensation initially, but he was brought around to it as a way to 1)accommodate the Anglicans who wanted to jump the fence and 2) add some small number of priests."

Cardinal Hume was very much in favour of it and prevailed on him to allow it - he still (unlike our current crop of bishops) had visions of re-converting England.

However, most of the UK bishops were against it on the grounds that it would create 2 classes of married men in the Church, with only the select minority being eligible for ordination. They would only have favoured it if it was opened to all Catholic men - not just former Anglican clergy.

I doubt Tettamanzi would favour it as he seems to have a thing going for the homosexuals, and Scola is quite conservative in some respects.

People like Daneels, Kasper and Lehmann might, but they are even more liberal than JPII and would destroy the Church in many ways.


68 posted on 04/07/2005 7:53:54 AM PDT by Tantumergo
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To: sandyeggo

Omaha NE is the other diocese.


69 posted on 04/07/2005 7:53:56 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: sandyeggo
Yes and I've read where especially Communion in the hand was pushed by some bishops in order for it to become 'local established practice' so the Vatican would have to consider it tradition here.

I wish I could put my finger on it but in one of the Canadian dioceses I read something written by the bishop instructing the parish priests to give the practice of the priest attending wakes to say the rosary over to the laity... and he specifically said he wanted it to become 'local practice' in order to force it to become a tradition. >>>>> now of course some Catholic will write the Vatican eventually and the Vatican will consult the bishop who can say that the practice is local and traditional.

70 posted on 04/07/2005 7:54:56 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: cyborg

Nice, from a guy with a mermaid on his page! :)


71 posted on 04/07/2005 7:57:55 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: american colleen
I think a lot of it is that tons of priests would be outraged if the FSSP or another 'JPII' priestly order were allowed into Boston. So for all the talk of 'denying the faithful the Eucharist' it seems that not all possible remedies are 'open for discussion' - in fact, there's only one 'remedy' that seems to be 'open for discussion'. It's pretty hypocritical.

If the FSSP would celebrate the Novus Ordo in addition to the Tridentine Mass, I'd bet O'Malley would not have a problem. The FSSP won't allow their priests to concelebrate with the bishop or other priests for fear of being "contaminated" by the Novus Ordo. I can see why a bishop wouldn't want this attitude in his diocese.

A parish with an indult Mass is not the same as an all Tridentine Rite parish. I wonder if there are enough traditional Catholics in Boston to support such a parish.

72 posted on 04/07/2005 7:58:11 AM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: Mershon

How in the world do alter girls threaten the Church?


73 posted on 04/07/2005 7:59:26 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: pa mom; cyborg

Cyborg, if I might speak for her, is a lady.


74 posted on 04/07/2005 8:00:26 AM PDT by Petronski (I thank God Almighty for a most remarkable blessing: John Paul the Great.)
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To: MadIvan

Like the Greek church does. The married priests can't reach higher office.


76 posted on 04/07/2005 8:01:12 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: sinkspur
I think there's about 350 regular indult attendees. The indult is not well known and it is not advertised plus the parish is in a hard to get to area and the area is in a dodgy part of Boston. Not good parking either.
77 posted on 04/07/2005 8:02:59 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: xsmommy

We need another pope who is conservative and steadfast. Get rid of the swishy hierarchy.


78 posted on 04/07/2005 8:03:47 AM PDT by Jaded (My sheeple, my sheeple....)
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To: american colleen
I wish I could put my finger on it but in one of the Canadian dioceses I read something written by the bishop instructing the parish priests to give the practice of the priest attending wakes to say the rosary over to the laity... and he specifically said he wanted it to become 'local practice' in order to force it to become a tradition. >>>>> now of course some Catholic will write the Vatican eventually and the Vatican will consult the bishop who can say that the practice is local and traditional.

It has never been a requirement that somebody in Holy Orders officiate at wake services or rosaries for the deceased. In fact, where possible, we encourage families of the deceased to plan and conduct the wake services themselves. That's when we get all of the personal eulogies, and keep them out of the Mass the next day.

We still do wake services, but lots of families do their own with no clergy present.

79 posted on 04/07/2005 8:06:34 AM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: sinkspur

What is so wrong with sex within marriage that makes God require priests to forgo it? It seems the Church has a historical precedent to have both married and celibate priests.

I don't think it matters is a priest would be hetero or homosexual if he is celibate. Unmarried, he shouldn't be doing it with anyone!


80 posted on 04/07/2005 8:07:16 AM PDT by pa mom
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