Posted on 04/07/2005 5:00:46 AM PDT by Teófilo
However, it does seem that when they are truly needed, women may serve in this role legitimately.
I think a lot of it is that tons of priests would be outraged if the FSSP or another 'JPII' priestly order were allowed into Boston. So for all the talk of 'denying the faithful the Eucharist' it seems that not all possible remedies are 'open for discussion' - in fact, there's only one 'remedy' that seems to be 'open for discussion'. It's pretty hypocritical.
I guess everyone's different but having lived through what I now know was 'grooming' for months, I knew enough to know what was right and what was wrong and what I didn't want to do. The guy was a rich lawyer and respected in the community where I grew up plus this was in 1974, so I never told anyone except my mother who blew it off because I think she was intimidated.
The competition from an Order, versus closing a parish, the money is on closing, because that would be cash in real estate strapped Boston, IMHO, but I am about a thousand miles from there.
Sitting here stunned! Are you saying that women should be allowed to distribute Communion only if extraordinary circumstances were present? My friend said that in other countries, no women serve....the whole thing came up because her church in Chicago needs people to take Holy Communion to the sick and housebound but only men are chosen-here in the NW women do this all the time.
We're not really "one" anymore, are we? "Holy", I pray so, "catholic"-maybe not-"universal"?
"I'd bet that JPII was not in favor of the Anglican dispensation initially, but he was brought around to it as a way to 1)accommodate the Anglicans who wanted to jump the fence and 2) add some small number of priests."
Cardinal Hume was very much in favour of it and prevailed on him to allow it - he still (unlike our current crop of bishops) had visions of re-converting England.
However, most of the UK bishops were against it on the grounds that it would create 2 classes of married men in the Church, with only the select minority being eligible for ordination. They would only have favoured it if it was opened to all Catholic men - not just former Anglican clergy.
I doubt Tettamanzi would favour it as he seems to have a thing going for the homosexuals, and Scola is quite conservative in some respects.
People like Daneels, Kasper and Lehmann might, but they are even more liberal than JPII and would destroy the Church in many ways.
Omaha NE is the other diocese.
I wish I could put my finger on it but in one of the Canadian dioceses I read something written by the bishop instructing the parish priests to give the practice of the priest attending wakes to say the rosary over to the laity... and he specifically said he wanted it to become 'local practice' in order to force it to become a tradition. >>>>> now of course some Catholic will write the Vatican eventually and the Vatican will consult the bishop who can say that the practice is local and traditional.
Nice, from a guy with a mermaid on his page! :)
If the FSSP would celebrate the Novus Ordo in addition to the Tridentine Mass, I'd bet O'Malley would not have a problem. The FSSP won't allow their priests to concelebrate with the bishop or other priests for fear of being "contaminated" by the Novus Ordo. I can see why a bishop wouldn't want this attitude in his diocese.
A parish with an indult Mass is not the same as an all Tridentine Rite parish. I wonder if there are enough traditional Catholics in Boston to support such a parish.
How in the world do alter girls threaten the Church?
Cyborg, if I might speak for her, is a lady.
Like the Greek church does. The married priests can't reach higher office.
We need another pope who is conservative and steadfast. Get rid of the swishy hierarchy.
It has never been a requirement that somebody in Holy Orders officiate at wake services or rosaries for the deceased. In fact, where possible, we encourage families of the deceased to plan and conduct the wake services themselves. That's when we get all of the personal eulogies, and keep them out of the Mass the next day.
We still do wake services, but lots of families do their own with no clergy present.
What is so wrong with sex within marriage that makes God require priests to forgo it? It seems the Church has a historical precedent to have both married and celibate priests.
I don't think it matters is a priest would be hetero or homosexual if he is celibate. Unmarried, he shouldn't be doing it with anyone!
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