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To: donbosco74
it is making no sense to me

My initial thinking was that the Orthodox share the understanding of the Trinity with us: that the Father begets the Son, and from the Father through the Son the Holy Ghost proceeds. So, I thought, the issue is words and authority to change words, not substance.

I was later convinced that the Orthodox understanding of the Holy Trinity differs substantially. At this point I would like to get my questions about their understanding answered, because it seems to me manifestly wrong, and I am not having much luck.

112 posted on 04/06/2005 9:32:38 AM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex; donbosco74; Kolokotronis; kosta50; MarMema
I was later convinced that the Orthodox understanding of the Holy Trinity differs substantially.

I disagree. The Orthodox do NOT differ from us on the basic understanding of the Holy Trinity -- the question of the filioque is not that the Orthodox church considers Christ to be a 'junior partner' in the Trinity, nor that the Catholic Church considers Christ and the Father to BOTH be the sources for the Holy Spirit. No, both churchs understand the same idea: that of a triune God, but there is substantial misunderstanding in what the Western Church means by 'We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of Life, who proceeds from the Father, AND THE SON' (of course, the portion in caps is not accepted by the OC as they think it means a dual origin of the Holy Spirit, while the Catholic Church will hasten to say it does not.

Do note that ALL the rites of the Catholic church do not add the filioque -- AFAIK, it is only the Latin rite that does so
136 posted on 04/07/2005 4:39:26 AM PDT by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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