1 posted on
04/01/2005 9:51:05 PM PST by
sionnsar
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2 posted on
04/01/2005 9:51:39 PM PST by
sionnsar
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To: sionnsar
It is my belief that I cannot marry someone who is divorced without committing adultery.
Our propensity for this terrible choice is beyond description.
As of the year 2000, Christians had a higher divorce rate than the per capita average.
Today, it's better to be an atheist if marriage is important to you.
To: sionnsar
One partner wants to stay in the orthodox house and the other has moved out...
Passing that sign at the edge of town makes me angry because The Episcopal Church doesn'tt welcome me
anymore.
I find this so poignant, the Episcopal Church does not welcome her orthodox members any more.
I listened while you told me of your dreams and plans and gradually it dawned on me that I wasnt included. And when I pointed this out to you, your response was to make me doubt myself, as if there were something seriously wrong with me.
This is one of the saddest parts of the entire argument. Orthodox people who stand by the scriptural condemnation of homosexuality are told they do not love. Too many time there is a part of their minds that say something like "Maybe they are right. Maybe I should see this entire thing as a deficit in my love, not an upholding of the Lord's command."
Paraphrasing Screwtape to Wormwood: "Practice looking like an Angle of Light. We do our best tempting on the very steps of the Altar."
4 posted on
04/02/2005 12:30:50 AM PST by
Talking_Mouse
(Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)
To: sionnsar
I deeply appreciate the anguish alice is showing. I am very sorry to see her getting cut off from the Church she loves. I would be a lot more empathetic if I didn't have to countenance her position. It's like listening to complaints from illegal immigrants: sure you're not being fully welcomed, yes it's tough to get a job without getting exposed to the Feds, I can see how the environment is disorienting, but, tell me, Ms. Priestess: exactly what part of unScriptural are you having difficulty understanding?
You took your orders knowing that there was no precedent for female ordination into the sacramental ministry. You were quite willing to breach the unity of the Church in pursuit of what you personally viewed as God's call and in despite of any good advice to the contrary. So it's a little late to complain that those your lawless action empowered now turn on you.
I am deeply saddened by the tone I have used here and I ask your prayers to cope with it, but sometimes it does feel like a bit of rebuke must be aired. Jerome wasn't always wrong, I think.
In Christ,
Deacon Paul+
5 posted on
04/02/2005 3:17:55 AM PST by
BelegStrongbow
(Having a human friend is no bed of roses-but hobbits? That's very different. :))
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